[Albion] Evan Ferguson

[BluesRockDJ]

A loan makes sense permanently doesn’t unless the offer really is too good to turn down.
He’s has all the attributes to be a top striker and he can clearly score goals. To continue developing he needs minutes on the pitch at the top level uninterrupted for a few months. Hopefully he can then put his injuries and fitness issues behind him.

I suspect that the default answer to Would you be prepared to listen to offers for xxx (insert any player) in this window is now yes.

This isn't the same as making a player available for transfer (we are activey seeking buyers), but more a realistic view that we are a selling club and every player has their price.

I don't expect any serious bids, despite some of our fans being desperate for a deal. 18-19 year olds are not even supposed to be playing first team football in the Premier League, so to write off a youngster for not scoring at this age is more than a little short sighted. Personally I have watched enough football over the years where we have gone season after season without a half decent goalscorer, to know you don't get rid of young prospects lightly.

So you obviously remember the halycon days of Bobby Smith and Martin Chivers at the Goldstone ?

 

[Oh_aye]

Him being sold doesn't really make sense. It does for us but not the buyer. Why now? When there's a premium on January transfers. He's not playing well and injured and keeps getting injured. So surely no one is buying him to rescue them now?

If he's going to be bought as one for the future, why not just wait until the summer.

 

[BluesRockDJ]

Him being sold doesn't really make sense. It does for us but not the buyer. Why now? When there's a premium on January transfers. He's not playing well and injured and keeps getting injured. So surely no one is buying him to rescue them now?

If he's going to be bought as one for the future, why not just wait until the summer.

If he's going to be bought as one for the future, why not just wait until the summer.
That's what I thought we did ?
Recall Sima from Brest if Real Madrid knock them out tonight and go from there.

 

[oldboyroy]

We would sell anyone at the right price, wouldn’t we? Otherwise it wouldn’t be the right price.

Exactly. Every player has a price if someone wants them or they want to leave.

 

[oldboyroy]

Our season is over already. Not good enough for Europe this year. Good players being forced out, replacements average (except Rutter) or injured or on loan, won't win FA Cup. Mid table obscurity incoming this season.

Win at Forest and home to Chelsea in league and I think our season will be far from over.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

If I was a player I'd be fed up with FH for the sole reason that I had to hear him go 'alright guys' 10 times a day.

 

[Pliny the Gull]

If he's going to be bought as one for the future, why not just wait until the summer.
That's what I thought we did ?
Recall Sima from Brest if Real Madrid knock them out tonight and go from there.

Recalling Sima seems possibly a good option tbf.

 

[Dave the OAP]

I think you probably mean Mark O'Mahony who is on loan at Portsmouth and is currently injured.

Thanks him. Ah didn’t know that.

injured you say.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

It doesn’t strike me as odd. Maybe the club has seen enough, knows enough, and that all things considered it’s best for everyone he moves on.

He’s been off the boil for a long long time and under two managers. How much longer do you give him?

This time last year, every man and his dog was after Calvin Phillips on loan ourselves included if you believe all that. After a disastrous 6 months at West Ham, all the suitors disappeared before he started the season on Ipswich's bench.

I've no idea why Evan is off the boil but he certainly has been so I can see a school of thought for selling Evan if the club believe his decline is not going to stop. In a years time, it could look like the world's best or worst piece of business.

 

[seagull_special]

This time last year, every man and his dog was after Calvin Phillips on loan ourselves included if you believe all that. After a disastrous 6 months at West Ham, all the suitors disappeared before he started the season on Ipswich's bench.

I've no idea why Evan is off the boil but he certainly has been so I can see a school of thought for selling Evan if the club believe his decline is not going to stop. In a years time, it could look like the world's best or worst piece of business.

My instinct would be worst. He is 20yrs old, recovering from injury and illness and he is on his third manager in 3 years. I could see him scoring against us every time he plays!

Instinct tells me he is not happy at the moment. I would suggest a new contract with a clause if a big six club comes in. Would not recommend a sideways move and would not take less than 60 million based on the fact, I don’t want him to leave.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

My instinct would be worst. He is 20yrs old, recovering from injury and illness and he is on his third manager in 3 years. I could see him scoring against us every time he plays!

Instinct tells me he is not happy at the moment. I would suggest a new contract with a clause if a big six club comes in. Would not recommend a sideways move and would not take less than 60 million based on the fact, I don’t want him to leave.

My instinct is that it would be the right call.
We obviously got top dollar for great players (White, Cucu, Caceido etc) but also eeked out decent money for Knockeart, Sanchez and Maupay who we didn't really want and won't go for those fees ever again.

It's buyer beware for me if we are looking to move Evan on permanently. There aren't many we got wrong excepting a certain Swedish forward. Even the players we signed on the downgrade have all had their influence and moments when we signed them. Welbeck the shining light.

That said, what I really want is 2023 Ferguson back in the team fit and firing. Where's that bloke gone?

 

[Hugo Rune]

I think Arsenal could come in for Ferguson now…



Just hope he goes nowhere near Saudi. What a way to ruin your career but fill your bank account.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

I think Arsenal could come in for Ferguson now…



Just he goes nowhere near Saudi. What a way to ruin your career but fill your bank account.

Someone was posting earlier that players can't be blamed for leaving the Albion if we can't sell out against Chelsea in the cup as players want to play in full passionate stadiums

It's that kind of tweet you've posted which highlights that as the bullshit it is.

Follow the money lads.

 

[Kosh]

Losing Julio was disconcerting, losing Evan would be genuinely saddening and maddening.

We’re talking about two players who potentially have very high ceilings - one so talented with the ball at his feet he got people out of their seats and (with strong man management) could be a world class talent… the other a deadly finisher, IF permitted to be on the end of fluid moves…

I’m not sure what’s going wrong, but something is OFF and it would appear players who were looking certs for BIG moves (proving our model continues to flourish) are going backwards, so backwards they’re willingly moonwalking out of the Amex to the likes of Ipswich.

Now, I’m no in the know tea lady spy conduit, BUT it would seem young Fabian is maybe just maybe not handling our young stars too well… the process seems flawed, Lewis Dunk seems to have aged about 10 years since the summer, sporting frown lines so pronounced I’d suggest he’s he’s not a fan of the Hurzeler jib… yet, in spite of all of this speculation based on Lewis not smiling very much (ahem) the club seem right behind our young coach… it’s a f***ing puzzler alright.

I’m not sure what to think tbh, and if the process even exists ?!? Although it would seem spunking out our talented starlets to PL rivals is central to it hmmmmmmmm

It’s not great, I don’t feel comfortable at all…

 

[DJ NOBO]

Thats what I thought. They tend to post articles when a transfer has happened, or if there is some clear information that one might happen (a quote from a manager for example), or they tend to put rumours into their daily gossip section. This was written a bit more factually but without anything backing it up.

Phil McNulty used to write safe, boring articles that told you nothing you didn’t already know.
Simon Stone seems to like his click bait headlines and is more speculative . If he did just pinch this Ferguson line from Naylor’s yesterday it’s a bit weak from the BBC. More what you expect from a kid on Twitter.
Im not convinced Stone knows anymore about Ferguson situation than you and I.

 

[Flounce]

Losing Julio was disconcerting, losing Evan would be genuinely saddening and maddening.

We’re talking about two players who potentially have very high ceilings - one so talented with the ball at his feet he got people out of their seats and (with strong man management) could be a world class talent… the other a deadly finisher if permitted to be on the end of fluid moves…

I’m not sure what’s going wrong, but something is OFF and it would appear players who were looking certs for BIG moves (proving our model continues to flourish) are going backwards, so backwards they’re willingly moonwalking out of the Amex to the likes of Ipswich.

Now, I’m no in the know tea lady spy conduit BUT it would seem young Fabian is maybe just maybe not handling our young stars too well… the process seems flawed, Lewis Dunk seems to have aged about 10 years since the summer, sporting frown lines so pronounced I’d suggest he’s he’s not a fan of the Hurzeler jib… yet, in spite of all of this speculation based on Lewis not smiling very much the club seem right behind our young coach… it’s a f***ing puzzler alright.

I’m not sure what to think tbh, and if the process even exists ?!? Although it would seem spunking out our talented starlets to PL rivals is central to it hmmmmmmmm

It’s not great, I don’t feel comfortable at all…

It was never going to be a incremental improvement year on year, bumps along the way are inevitable and even more so the higher we go. I was unhappy to see Barco and Facu loaned out, feel the same about Enciso but it’s clear that the direction we are taking has changed this season. My expectations are dramatically lowered now from pre season, but we are not doing badly, we are just not being entertained very often now. Rookie manager, injuries, non PL ready replacements in the main all influence this.

However we are a work in progress and expectations need reining in imo

Funny that a couple of months ago after our win at Bournemouth that some of their fans said that they were a couple of years behind us, they have closed that gap and opened one up on us since

 

[Kosh]

It was never going to be a incremental improvement year on year, bumps along the way are inevitable and even more so the higher we go. I was unhappy to see Barco and Facu loaned out, feel the same about Enciso but it’s clear that the direction we are taking has changed this season. My expectations are dramatically lowered now from pre season, but we are not doing badly, we are just not being entertained very often now. Rookie manager, injuries, non PL ready replacements in the main all influence this.

However we are a work in progress and expectations need reining in imo

I agree with everything you say, you are of course correct.

I’m not bemoaning our form or league position, moreover my (most likely irrational) fear that Fabs is systematically undermining years of development and squad harmony in 3/4 of a season…

I’d be happy to be proven wrong I guess I just have a bad feeling is all.

 

[Flounce]

I agree with everything you say, you are of course correct.

I’m not bemoaning our form or league position, moreover my (most likely irrational) fear that Fabs is systematically undermining years of development and squad harmony in 3/4 of a season…

I’d be happy to be proven wrong I guess I just have a bad feeling is all.

I am not disagreeing, but that’s because I have become all entitled and expected better but am accepting of being underwhelmed so far

 

[dazzer6666]

Win at Forest and home to Chelsea in league and I think our season will be far from over.

No no no. We win a game, Europe is back on, we lose a game, the season is over.

 

[Kosh]

I am not disagreeing, but that’s because I have become all entitled and expected better but am accepting of being underwhelmed so far

I know what you mean, I’m so RIDDLED with entitlement I can barely move most days… it’s the process that’ll kill yer…