England players "bored."

[KneeOn]

They are adults. Read a book. Go for a walk. Go for a swim. Arrange some security (if that is a problem that concerns them) to have a wander around a local town and explore.

Depends on what they are in to!
I'm going on what the 24/5/6 year olds I play football with are in to. And it does consist of a lot of stuff like that.

Also, being adults didn't stop Brighton from going to paintballing. I'm talking about things purely that will involve everyone working together with a bit of mild competition and banter.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Jesus, these guys are mostly between 26 and 30 years old. They get paid £100k per week and their careers will be over by about 36/37. They all banged on about how much it meant to play in the World Cup yet as soon as they get to their 5* resort they complain that they're bored. Funny, I've seen photos of them out played golf. Out on safari (though half of them didn't even appear to give a shit about that either). The hotel has plenty of facilities to entertain them. As for bonding- FFS they're all together in a hotel, would none of you consider it an opportunity to bond if you were chucked in a hotel with your mates for a month (probably won't even be that long at this rate)? Play cards, watch TV, knock around on your laptop, ring the missus, do whatever other things blokes do in hotel rooms on their own , just don't tell the rest of England your tiny minds are bored.

They don't even know what bored is, it's not like they've worked in Burger King or waiting tables or lying in a hedge in Helmand watching for Taliban movement. I spent about five hours of my shift yesterday sitting around in hospital waiting for some pissed old idiot who'd been arrested to have a cut on his head assessed. That was pretty boring too. As, I expect, are most people's jobs on occasion.

This whole boredom thing is blatantly some of the players laying out the excuses early so if they do go crashing and burning against Slovenia, it won't be their fault, no sir. It'll be Fabio Capello's for not having enough Kerplunk sets, failing to arrange a performance by Jim Davidson, and ignoring their request for a night out in Cape Town's most glamorous titty bars. Pathetic. Shut up and get on with it, you overpaid bunch of children.

 

[KneeOn]

Jesus, these guys are mostly between 26 and 30 years old. They get paid £100k per week and their careers will be over by about 36/37. They all banged on about how much it meant to play in the World Cup yet as soon as they get to their 5* resort they complain that they're bored. Funny, I've seen photos of them out played golf. Out on safari (though half of them didn't even appear to give a shit about that either). The hotel has plenty of facilities to entertain them. As for bonding- FFS they're all together in a hotel, would none of you consider it an opportunity to bond if you were chucked in a hotel with your mates for a month (probably won't even be that long at this rate)? Play cards, watch TV, knock around on your laptop, ring the missus, do whatever other things blokes do in hotel rooms on their own , just don't tell the rest of England your tiny minds are bored.

They don't even know what bored is, it's not like they've worked in Burger King or waiting tables or lying in a hedge in Helmand watching for Taliban movement. I spent about five hours of my shift yesterday sitting around in hospital waiting for some pissed old idiot who'd been arrested to have a cut on his head assessed. That was pretty boring too. As, I expect, are most people's jobs on occasion.

This whole boredom thing is blatantly some of the players laying out the excuses early so if they do go crashing and burning against Slovenia, it won't be their fault, no sir. It'll be Fabio Capello's for not having enough Kerplunk sets, failing to arrange a performance by Jim Davidson, and ignoring their request for a night out in Cape Town's most glamorous titty bars. Pathetic. Shut up and get on with it, you overpaid bunch of children.

Alternatively its not boredom as the list you mentioned (Burger king, your own waiting in hospital etc).

Also, if a large chunk of Capello's regime is to cut out several things young men like to do to bond together, it becomes artificial and the whole affair of gelling together and becoming a team is plastic and stale and won't work properly.

Finally... money does NOT mean that they are going to be psychologically prepared. that is the job of the manager and somthing that it appears he isn't getting right for one reason or another. Yes the players have a job to do but if fear and uncertianty are instilled via Capello's managment style, they aren't going to be able to play without cocking up!

The whole money argument is invalid.

 

[Brovion]

Because, for some unknown reason, there is something wrong mentally. The players are neither happy nor relaxed. Their level of ability and technique hasn't declined since May 17th, but as said previously, when you perform at the very top of any profession, 90% of it is in your head. Look at Tiger Woods. He hasn't forgotten how to play golf in the last months - it's simply that mentally he isn't in the right place since the sex scandal stuff.

Respected journalists who have followed England for many years, such as Radio Five's chief football correspondent Mike Ingham are truely baffled and are saying that something has gone seriously wrong in the England preparations for the team to look so stilted, frightened and unhappy.

Getting them to do extra passing drills and keepy-upies is not the answer, because technique is not at the heart of the problem, but carry on.

I never said technique WAS the problem. If you'd read my post properly you'd have seen I wasn't agreeing with Twinle Toes as such, I was asking WHY they were having trouble doing the simple things. You've postulated some reasons and I happen to think you could be on the right lines. It's proved one thing though: football management, and especially tournament management, isn't simply a matter of picking eleven good players and then pinning the names up on the wall.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Reckon they're 'frustrated' cos the WAGs are banned and all the local hookers have AIDS. Probably missing the comforts of home like a good old-fashioned spit roast.

 

[Acker79]

Its kind of like dieting. Yes, the weight loss regime, however you choose to go, will lose you weight, its how you keep it off that is hard, and you can't follow the same approach when losing weight becuase you're likely to relapse and binge out again.

That's a bad analogy.

Normal Eating leads to obesity
Dieting leads to healthy weight.

If you stop dieting and go back to normal eating, you will go back to obesity.


Lack of discipline led to us failing to win and failing to qualify for the euros
Discipline led to us qualifying in style.

If we lose discipline we don't get better. We go back to failing to win.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Are they not allowed to go out on there own?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Reckon they're 'frustrated' cos the WAGs are banned and all the local hookers have AIDS. Probably missing the comforts of home like a good old-fashioned spit roast.

They should of taken sol? O sorry you have covered that....

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Well surely if they are so bored they'd be itching to get out on the pitch for real and burn off all their excess energy and frustrations by stuffing those Americans and Algerians?

Oh.

 

[Pot noodles for everyone]

They should of taken sol? O sorry you have covered that....

Should have. It's "HAVE". This is basic schoolboy stuff.

 

[Pot noodles for everyone]

Alternatively its not boredom as the list you mentioned (Burger king, your own waiting in hospital etc).

Also, if a large chunk of Capello's regime is to cut out several things young men like to do to bond together, it becomes artificial and the whole affair of gelling together and becoming a team is plastic and stale and won't work properly.

Finally... money does NOT mean that they are going to be psychologically prepared. that is the job of the manager and somthing that it appears he isn't getting right for one reason or another. Yes the players have a job to do but if fear and uncertianty are instilled via Capello's managment style, they aren't going to be able to play without cocking up!

The whole money argument is invalid.

Whereas typing in large font does what to advance your argument?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Should have. It's "HAVE". This is basic schoolboy stuff.

Magic

 

[Lush]

Capello is proven as a manager, BUT when he has a team to work with over a season or more, day in and day out.

Now he has to bring together a disparate group of individuals, for a few days here and there, then a few weeks before the biggest tournament in the world (which could potentially add or remove a few mill to their future salaries if they enhance or destroy their reputations). It's obviously a completely different job to any he's had before.

He doesn't seem to have quite got the hang of it.

 

[Stoichkov]

Chris Waddle, speaking on 5 Live earlier today, revealed that a 'source' in the England squad has told him that the players are "bored rigid" at their training camp and that there's growing dissatisfaction and resentment with Capello's strict regime.

Robbie Savage picked up on this and was banging on about it all day on 5-Live about how tough it is on the players having to cope with being so bored when away with the national team. Neil Warnock, pleaded with listeners to understand just 'how hard' it is for modern footballers and that people shouldn't focus on their weekly wages.

Just how deep in the sand are footballers heads?

Just how bored can you be at world biggest football tournament?

When they are not playing or training, they should be resting and recovering. Why do they feel that they are entitled to a daily set of laid on activities for them?

Maybe they should have a go at being a pro cyclist at a major tour - 3 weeks, 200km a day + travelling between stage finishes and their hotels where they'll spend their time attempting to replace the 7000 calories they've burned off. Theres no time to be bored there. Barely enough time to sleep.

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

John Terry press conference going on now.

He admits the players get bored between having lunch at 1pm and the 6 or 7 hours to dinner.

They have darts tournaments, pool and snooker etc but it's not enough.

Shouldn't Gerrard be doing this?

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

Meeting with Fabio Capello tonight. 'Maybe some of us will be sent home afterwards too', referring to the Anelka situation.

Sound like they're really not happy with the management team

 

[1234andcounting]

Three live games a day (when they aren't playing, and anyway those games have barely qualified as "live"). The players could watch those:
- to check out the potential opposition should they progress;
- improve their knowledge of tactics and coaching should any of them want to become coaches themselves;
- just enjoy the games.

That should keep some of the boredom away.....

 

[Gritt23]

Maybe they could spend their spare time with some of their bored mates trying to re-learn how to play a 5 yard pass & control the ball then? Just a thought...

Naah, no need, we've got that covered. We're officially blaming the ball. It's too round, we can't be expected to deal with that, and long passes travel further. Altitude is too complex for a footballer to understand so we are sticking with "when we kick the ball it goes too far. Ruddy stupid ball."

The concept of, not kicking it so hard, was raised but laughed out as we didn't have enough time with the players to get their heads around that.

Can't be the players fault, because "at the end of the day we are a GREAT team" (Defoe, post-match 18th June 2010), so it must be the ball. No point practising those tricky 5 yard passes because FIFA have turned this into a lottery don't you know. What can we do about it.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Artical in the press saying the players want cole to play.

Funny, I thought they were paid to play and not pick the side?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Robbie Savage picked up on this and was banging on about it all day on 5-Live about how tough it is on the players having to cope with being so bored when away with the national team. Neil Warnock, pleaded with listeners to understand just 'how hard' it is for modern footballers and that people shouldn't focus on their weekly wages.

Just how deep in the sand are footballers heads?

Just how bored can you be at world biggest football tournament?

When they are not playing or training, they should be resting and recovering. Why do they feel that they are entitled to a daily set of laid on activities for them?

Maybe they should have a go at being a pro cyclist at a major tour - 3 weeks, 200km a day + travelling between stage finishes and their hotels where they'll spend their time attempting to replace the 7000 calories they've burned off. Theres no time to be bored there. Barely enough time to sleep.

I find it staggering to be honest. If someone told me I was going to SA for 4 weeks with all my mates, 5 star luxury and a few hours work each day I be jumping for joy. I'd pack a load of books and magazines, my iPod would be bulging and the only worry I'd have is how to read everything and listen to everything in between putting my feet up (and probably having my shoulders massaged) when I'm watching all the other games in the world cup.