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[Albion] Club selling your seat, is this right?



Talby

Well-known member
Dec 24, 2023
329
Sussex
An away game in Amsterdam is very very different to a home game on the exchange. There is demand that dramatically exceeds supply, and you have to get flights, hotels, etc. It would be totally unfair for every category 1 fan to buy the ticket first and only then decide if they can go, depriving cat 2 people of getting the ticket until much later in the process when flights could be sold out, prices astronomical, and little chance of going with your mates. It would be chaos and there would be uproar on here.

No previous contact needed as he’d attended all matches, his second child was only born this season thus making the fixtures more of a struggle to attend. If they had tried calling would a voicemail perhaps have been prudent?
Obviously I understand the scepticism, it’s NSC’s way, if it hasn’t happened to people directly then there’s no way it can have happened at all, right?
I’m afraid that on here it can be very critical - the assumption being that the supporter has been a cretin, with the club adhering to a strong moral code. I’ve had similar on here and some of the comments about me & my own situation with the club on here have been atrocious (they’re unaware it’s me they’ve referred to and I’ve just read their comments without engaging with them).

Regrettably that view will only change when they have some action taken against them which they feel is unjust.

Nothing surprises me about the actions of the club. I do not have a healthy view of them regarding their attitude towards fans - whether STH / 1901 STH - as they just want bums on seats….and the more you pay then the more appealing you are. They seem to make rules up as they go along and there’s nothing you can do about it.
 






dazzer6666

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Mar 27, 2013
56,120
Burgess Hill
I can only list mine for Arsenal and Everton ?
Through profile page, not on the ticket purchase page ? Check the circle and then ‘resale’

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Brian Munich

teH lulZ
Jul 7, 2008
366
To be fair, as it was a Boxing Day dump, that may have been a lengthy spell online.
Yeh, the ticket thing took about 2 mins. I also had time to check 36 hours worth of 5 separate WhatsApp groups, several threads on NSC, check my pension and ISA earnings and read a chapter of a book via the Kindle app.
 






MTSeagulls

Well-known member
Sep 18, 2019
979
I’m afraid that on here it can be very critical - the assumption being that the supporter has been a cretin, with the club adhering to a strong moral code. I’ve had similar on here and some of the comments about me & my own situation with the club on here have been atrocious (they’re unaware it’s me they’ve referred to and I’ve just read their comments without engaging with them).

Regrettably that view will only change when they have some action taken against them which they feel is unjust.

Nothing surprises me about the actions of the club. I do not have a healthy view of them regarding their attitude towards fans - whether STH / 1901 STH - as they just want bums on seats….and the more you pay then the more appealing you are. They seem to make rules up as they go along and there’s nothing you can do about it.
Sure as eggs is eggs the phrase about not s4itting on people on the way up will come to pass one day.
Only then will the people at the top in the club change their attitude towards fans out of financial necessity which is, right now, the only thing people like Paul Barber care about as it's reflected in their bonuses.
 


PascalGroß Tips

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Jan 29, 2024
730
Through profile page, not on the ticket purchase page ? Check the circle and then ‘resale’

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Yeah, I tried that ... but when you click resale (I selected the Chelsea game) ... it just takes you to the Ticket Exchange page, which lists the three games I've previously sold on the exchange - along with the Arsenal and Everton games. That's all that's listed under 'Ticket Exchange is open for the below games'.

EDIT: Just to add ... when you list one of the games showing on the exchange (so Arsenal and Everton), you then have to confirm as there's lots of T/Cs including confirming the account you want sale proceeds to go to. I can't see any way of doing that at the moment other than for Arsenal and Everton.
 
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nsclurker

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Apr 3, 2018
504
I can list mine for any remaining fixture this season…….they obviously won’t go on sale until the Exchange is ‘open’ though (ie post official ‘sellout’)
Can you show me how?

I've tried two different ways - via the "Ticket Exchange" link in the home tickets area, and via selecting them in the list of my tickets in my account area and get the same thing each time: nothing to see past this month...

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dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
56,120
Burgess Hill
Can you show me how?

I've tried two different ways - via the "Ticket Exchange" link in the home tickets area, and via selecting them in the list of my tickets in my account area and get the same thing each time: nothing to see past this month...

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See post above yours - I didn’t follow the whole process through, seems you can’t do it - apologies
 














Paulie Gualtieri

Bada Bing
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May 8, 2018
10,873
😂😂 for about the tenth time, there is nothing more to it. I appreciate you may not have read every post but all details are in here.
Apologies if this has been asked and dealt with already but has he had a response from the club as to the specific terms that they have undertaken the sales on his behalf?
My understand is this is only set out if a ST is suspended (which in their case it is)

As said apologies in advance but thread has been diluted somewhat!
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,587
The arse end of Hangleton
It wouldn’t be an unfair term if it was expressed before you bought it.
That's not correct. Even if the person taking out a contract knows about a certain condition and even accepts it, it can still be deemed unfair and therefore void.

Of course unfairness is subjective and the only way to test it is to take the supplier to court - I doubt anyone would bother with that route over a ticket for a football match.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
63,131
The Fatherland
That's not correct. Even if the person taking out a contract knows about a certain condition and even accepts it, it can still be deemed unfair and therefore void.

Of course unfairness is subjective and the only way to test it is to take the supplier to court - I doubt anyone would bother with that route over a ticket for a football match.
This is true, you can have unenforceable contracts. But I’m certain it wouldn’t be for something like use-or-lose your ticket.
 


tedebear

Legal Alien
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
17,228
In my computer
Apologies if this has been asked and dealt with already but has he had a response from the club as to the specific terms that they have undertaken the sales on his behalf?
My understand is this is only set out if a ST is suspended (which in their case it is)

As said apologies in advance but thread has been diluted somewhat!

Agreed, I'm curious too. Having read the T's and C's several times, I cannot see a clause about minimum attendance levels. I can see it on subsequent emails (Bozza shared one for example) from the club, but whether it was clear at point of sale that there was a minimum attendance level is a question I have. There is a clause about minimum attendance required to renew, there is language about suspension of ticket for various shady behaviour, but unless I missed it I couldn't see anything about taking back the ST due to low attendance....

Yes if you list it yourself it seems like you don't get the snarky email...But I'm interested in the contractual clause at sale of ST that says words to the effect of if you don't go x amount of times, we'll list all your remaining tickets on the exchange for you, and if they sell and you decide you did want to go, you'll have to buy replacements at your own cost".....
 




ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,886
Just far enough away from LDC
As I've said elsewhere, I am perplexed by the rush to take season tickets off people when I don't believe there is a waiting list for STs anymore

I know some other clubs (man city) are not issuing new STs when people give them up or die, preferring to sell them as single game ticket packages via their own travel partners

I also have had the experience of selling tickets on the exchange and coming to the next game to be told by people near me that away fans ended up sitting in them (arsenal last season being an example)
 


chaileyjem

#BarberIn
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Jun 27, 2012
14,715
As I've said elsewhere, I am perplexed by the rush to take season tickets off people when I don't believe there is a waiting list for STs anymore

I know some other clubs (man city) are not issuing new STs when people give them up or die, preferring to sell them as single game ticket packages via their own travel partners

I also have had the experience of selling tickets on the exchange and coming to the next game to be told by people near me that away fans ended up sitting in them (arsenal last season being an example)
There isn't a rush "to take season tickets off people" . There is a reported issue of one season ticket holder on this thread - where it looks like their ticket has been suspended and several tickets being sold as a result - for reasons not explained.

THere is however more comms reminding users that - given demand - there are options for sharing and reselling your ticket if you can't make it - to prevent empty seats. There's also plenty of examples reported on here and by the club of away fans buying tickets and being removed from their seats.

There's no suggestion that Albion are going down a route of reducing the number of ST holders.

EDIT : Looks like several upcoming matches/ ticket were sold via the exchange by club- but the ST wasn't actually suspended - for reasons not explained. as per @DarrenFreemansPerm
 
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