[Politics] Brexit

[The Clamp]

Gebeebies needs to have its licence revoked by Ofcom. They fail every test of impartiality, somehow the rules aren’t being applied to them

Quite

They get away with all sorts

 

[Weststander]

Without another referendum rejoin is a non starter and it needs to be more decisive than 52 48. Best way to face down Farage once and for all.

Depending on the phrasing of the question, imho it would be decisive rejoin. I’ve only known movement from Brexiteers who voted in good faith / not realising real world effects on them, who regret it.

At the GE Reform got 14% of the vote, Tories 24%. I know many Tories who are consistently (lifelong) pro EU. In the other direction add x percent of Red Wall voters who went back to Labour, but are very anti EU in Wales/Midlands/North.

70/30?

 

[Crawley Dingo]

Whilst Q Anon / Putin driven nationalists play you like a piano.

The difference being what I said was true, what you spewed was not.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

Listening to rational, balanced viewpoints, as I'm sure Weststander does, is the way to ensure you don't pad an echo chamber. For example listening to The Rest is Politics with Alistair Campbell and Rory Stewart.

Watching utter shyte like GBNews certainly does pad your echo chamber if you start believing the bollocks they spout

Watching a pair of globalists who consistently call everything wrong, balanced yea OK.

I dont watch GB news but you must if you have such a strong opinion unless you are crying.

But stick with the Guardian which ran away from X because it was getting fact checked....a lot.

 

[The Clamp]

The difference being what I said was true, what you spewed was not.

You couldn’t have proved his point any more succinctly

 

[Weststander]

The difference being what I said was true, what you spewed was not.

You haven’t a clue what media/social media sources I use, other than I found GB/Talk cringy.

 

[Pavilionaire]

So another day goes by, another large chunk of Labour political capital spent backtracking their former position, this time on the WASPI women.

Add this to this list of Winter Fuel Allowance, Employer NI hikes, Inheritance Tax for farmers, 2-child benefit cap, the Green Investment Pledge.

They're creating a political capital "Black Hole" of their own making by insisting that the Tory Brexit remains in place for the foreseeable future. The £100 billion hit to the economy annually would pay for all of the items I listed above with spare change for improving our defences against the Russian / Chinese threat.

It is staggering that Starmer did not leave his options open on Europe. He is cutting off his nose to spite his face. It is now time for the Lib Dems to ramp up the heat on this issue.

 

[Weststander]

So another day goes by, another large chunk of Labour political capital spent backtracking their former position, this time on the WASPI women.

Add this to this list of Winter Fuel Allowance, Employer NI hikes, Inheritance Tax for farmers, 2-child benefit cap, the Green Investment Pledge.

They're creating a political capital "Black Hole" of their own making by insisting that the Tory Brexit remains in place for the foreseeable future. The £100 billion hit to the economy annually would pay for all of the items I listed above with spare change for improving our defences against the Russian / Chinese threat.

It is staggering that Starmer did not leave his options open on Europe. He is cutting off his nose to spite his face. It is now time for the Lib Dems to ramp up the heat on this issue.

Can only think LibDem polling shows the vast majority of people have no interest in Rejoin and the issue being at the forefront again (I know, sad that most don’t care). Also they won a load of marginals where Brexit was popular.

LibDem politicians themselves were passionately pro Europe. Must be uncomfortable spending years biting your tongue on Rejoin for the party’s greater good, when it means so much.