[Politics] Brexit

[nicko31]

Who are you asking?? All those loud voices in passionate favour of Brexit are long gone. Hardly surprising even they can't defend the indefensible.

And who wants to hang around and take their medicine when it all turns to shit.

I expect the answer though is either 'we didn't know because our Brexit leaders didn't tell us' or 'project fear'.

Despite all this, Farage one of the chief arsonists that helped burn the house down is trying to tell everyone to give him the building contract to build a new house.

And despite this there will be a fair few people that think he's the solution

 

[BadFish]

Despite all this, Farage one of the chief arsonists that helped burn the house down is trying to tell everyone to give him the building contract to build a new house.

And despite this there will be a fair few people that think he's the solution

The power of appealing to people's base fear of johnny foreigner while wearing Tweed and holding a pint should not go unacknowledged.

 

[Gazwag]

It's a complete & utter bargain !
Just think of the benefits.
I've been doing that since day one, and have yet to find a single benefit !

I used my time queuing at passport control at Praque airport on Thusday and then again on Monday while looking longingly at the empty EU automatic gates like a lost love that had been snatched away, to try and think of a benefit and in all that time, nothing came to mind, I just felt angry at that messy haired lying fraud and his big f***ing bus.

 

[A1X]

Why are Brexiters non rioting on the streets, or rether why did they choose to burn down places where the government housed asylum seekers instead of processing them and not the houses of Farage, Boris etc etc?

Because Farage, Boris and their millionaire friends did an absolutely cracking job of convincing them that they were the heroes and everyone else was the enemy. And the rioters bought it hook, line and sinker.

 

[Machiavelli]

Imagine.

Imagine a scenario, that when the Tories learned that Brexit would de-criminalise the people smugglers, they opted to not share that information with the country. To not share the inevitable conclusion that Brexit would therefore increase illegal immigration into Britain. The very opposite of what they had told the country what would happen.

Imagine that they did nothing about it, and still went ahead with Brexit.

And then, when the small boats became an embarrassment, they then misled the British public, for a second time, with their flagship 'stop the boats' campaign. In the full knowledge that it was their own fault.

There is a real possibility that this account of events is real.

They, Farage, etc need this because, without it, they'll have to focus on something else like how wonderful trickle-down economics is, how well the NHS is doing, schools, the justice system, social care, local council services, ...

 

[Rdodge30]

@WATFORD zero

I think you will get your wish

the government is going to reverse Brexit one step at a time


The price will undoubtedly be high, our terms will certainly be worse than those we had previously but that’s just the cost of doing business.

I’m reasonably confident it’s going to happen

How good that will be for the country, only time will tell

 

[mothy]

Is this the longest NSC thread ever?

 

[WATFORD zero]

@WATFORD zero

I think you will get your wish

the government is going to reverse Brexit one step at a time


The price will undoubtedly be high, our terms will certainly be worse than those we had previously but that’s just the cost of doing business.

I’m reasonably confident it’s going to happen

How good that will be for the country, only time will tell

The terms will undoubtedly be worse if we want to get back into the economic world of the 21st century. We had the best deal of any country in the whole of the EU.

You really can't do something that stupid and expect there to be no cost, when you realise you've f***ed up and have to reverse

I would suggest that rather than reversing completely, just try to rejoin the CU/Single market and wait for the huge economic benefits of that before going any further

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Is this the longest NSC thread ever?

No. The Infinite Jukebox is.

 

[Soton Seagull]

Spoke to my pro Brexit Dad earlier. He reckons if it had been Proportional Representation then Farage would be PM as they got more votes than Labour.

I told hom taht was simply untrue. A very quickly Google showed the figures and his defence was It was in the paper and I saw it online.

The indoctrination is frightening.

He was also annoyed that the news (GB?) said Starmer was rejoining the EU without a vote!

 

[Rdodge30]

The terms will undoubtedly be worse if we want to get back into the economic world of the 21st century. We had the best deal of any country in the whole of the EU.

You really can't do something that stupid and expect there to be no cost, when you realise you've f***ed up and have to reverse

I would suggest that rather than reversing completely, just try to rejoin the CU/Single market and wait for the huge economic benefits of that before going any further

Well we will have to agree to differ on how good our original deal was - although I see you are already preparing to layi the blame for the new deal at the feet of the previous government !

I do not think Starmer or Reeves are at all capable of representing Britain’s best interests. I don’t see it. Too weak.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Well we will have to agree to differ on how good our original deal was - although I see you are already preparing to layi the blame for the new deal at the feet of the previous government !

I do not think Starmer or Reeves are at all capable of representing Britain’s best interests. I don’t see it. Too weak.

Maybe you'll get Boris back. You can live in hope and be desperately all over every political thread until then

 

[Rdodge30]

Maybe you'll get Boris back. You can live in hope and be desperately all over every political thread until then

I don’t want Boris back and I’m not desperately all over every political thread,

Have a word with yourself

Debate respectfully or not at all

 

[WATFORD zero]

If you really think that Brexit, in 2024 justifies any sort of debate, when everything has become blindingly obvious, I'll leave you to it.

Good Luck

 

[jcdenton08]

Debate respectfully or not at all

I’m inclined to agree. This has become a real problem in society to be honest.

 

[Rdodge30]

If you really think that Brexit, in 2024 justifies any sort of debate, when everything has become blindingly obvious, I'll leave you to it.

Good Luck

The debate I would have thought is predicting the terms, even whether the reversal will happen or not, given that the Toolmaker’s Son has said categorically that he won’t reverse it

You honestly seem unable to comment without getting snakey and mocking me. Disappointing given that I sought you out to discuss it.

 

[BadFish]

Well we will have to agree to differ on how good our original deal was - although I see you are already preparing to layi the blame for the new deal at the feet of the previous government !

I do not think Starmer or Reeves are at all capable of representing Britain’s best interests. I don’t see it. Too weak.

Who do you think is best placed to be negotiating?

 

[Rdodge30]

Who do you think is best placed to be negotiating?

My first thought would be Mandelson but I don’t really know enough about the Labour Party European specialists to make recommendations and as I understand it the Government have not yet appointed a Senior Civil Servant to the post of chief negotiator with the European Union.

My views on Starmer and Reeves stand in every aspect of politics not just the negotiations of this so called reset.

Starmer is the very epitome of style over substance and Reeves has certainly not impressed with her economic prowess.

Ed Miliband is absolutely champing at the bit to become the next Prime Minister, positioning himself at every opportunity.

The only heavyweight in the Government is Yvette Cooper

 

[BadFish]

My first thought would be Mandelson but I don’t really know enough about the Labour Party European specialists to make recommendations and as I understand it the Government have not yet appointed a Senior Civil Servant to the post of chief negotiator with the European Union.

My views on Starmer and Reeves stand in every aspect of politics not just the negotiations of this so called reset.

Starmer is the very epitome of style over substance and Reeves has certainly not impressed with her economic prowess.

Ed Miliband is absolutely champing at the bit to become the next Prime Minister, positioning himself at every opportunity.

The only heavyweight in the Government is Yvette Cooper

Fair enough, I think we have to acknowledge how tough a task any negotiation with the EU is going to be.

They will be negotiating from a position of massive weakness. Who ever does it, you will end up with a far worse deal than previously.

 

[Weststander]

When updating our Freeview channels I used the opportunity to delete GBNews/TalkTV. Now I don’t even come across that trash by accident.