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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
The really, really dumb thing is from a purely realpolitik perspective applied entirely to the template of British politics, Boris going for No Deal makes absolutely no sense. The last few weeks Labour has been quietly tearing itself apart over whether or not to back a deal which Boris brings back, and it could have turned into a really quite major split. So not putting one forward lets Starmer off the hook, as opposition to No Deal has always been the uniting factor in the Labour party on Brexit, and continues to be so. And even if Boris goes begging to the EU in January in the middle of the chaos and brings back the same deal they're offering now, Labour won't face that same quandary as they can turn around and say "this is a disaster, it's in the national interest to try and mitigate it".

Johnson far too busy wrecking the country to have the time to wreck the Labour party!
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly
Sometimes you see an image and you don't need to say anything...

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vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
Food bills to rise with no Brexit deal, say supermarket bosses, as shoppers face £3bn 'tariff bombshell'
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsmanchester/food-bills-to-rise-with-no-brexit-deal-say-supermarket-bosses-as-shoppers-face-%C2%A33bn-tariff-bombshell/ar-BB1bQh9t

No-deal Brexit would make Britons less safe, ex-national security adviser says

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/11/no-deal-brexit-would-make-britons-less-safe-ex-national-security-adviser-says

UK ports gridlocked and retailers struggling as Brexit deadline looms

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/10/uk-ports-gridlocked-and-retailers-struggling-as-brexit-deadline-looms

Businesses plead for Brexit deal as trade talks remain stuck
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/businesses-plead-brexit-deal-trade-105109053.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGvsQ-kTD-qEc4wv2RJcN79twPmuDBRGAUuU-_E_SybDtgGFAwyx1wKhVqIeGOAnaIn5gTK_eej4mra4Xw8Xa75tLJckoY2mQ02Jg7eFI0lRUmDNa6p7_KgqlaLQWw5YMYjaWMaOIuHUDPK6kW4qnR-fnWTcviKuTZe-HUW_Yfwg

Bank of England ready to act if Brexit sparks market chaos

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/bank-of-england-ready-to-act-if-brexit-sparks-market-chaos/ar-BB1bQnjy

Tesco explains rationing limits on nappies and pasta as it starts Brexit stockpiling
https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/tesco-explains-rationing-limits-nappies-23150808

Pound falls off a cliff as Boris Johnson warns of 'strong possibility' of no-deal Brexit
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/
money/other/pound-falls-off-a-cliff-as-boris-johnson-warns-of-strong-possibility-of-no-deal-brexit/ar-BB1bQbrq


Brexit: Ex-Australian PM warns 'Aussie-style' no-deal will be bad for Britain

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-ex-australian-pm-warns-23151035

Brexit: Morgan Stanley sees FTSE 250 down as much as 10% on no deal
https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/brexit-morgan-stanley-sees-ftse-250-down-as-much-as-10-on-no-deal

Calls for clarity on post-Brexit travel after fears non-essential EU trips could be banned

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-calls-for-clarity-on-travel-after-eu-exit-over-fears-non-essential-eu-trips-could-be-banned-12157640

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PROJECT FEAR, PROJECT FEAR, PROJECT FEAR

I think there's a few on here who really need to shout louder :shootself
Ah but other than those few, trifling issues, it's going to be wonderful... We were promised!
 










WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
27,766
I was starting to worry about POTG/JCFG/Chicken Run/pastafarian as he's now gone almost a whole day without posting and that hasn't happened for months to the best of my knowledge. Even on days were a couple of them have gone missing the other account's daily posts always seem to magically increase to compensate for our loss. I was starting to get worried that something untoward had happened or, even more unlikely, that he had actually gone out :eek:

But after a little investigation, my mind has been put at rest somewhat by the fact he has been logging on and off all those accounts today. He just doesn't seem to be able to post anything though, so maybe he's just having trouble with his Internet connection. Because I'm sure he wouldn't have left Ppf to hold the fort on his own without supervision.

I wonder if he's tried turning it off and back on again :lolol:

I'm sure there will be a pissy one liner soon :wink:

*edit* That was meant to say pithy, this auto spellchecker is awful
 
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JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
As I have already explained from the moment you got Johnson as head of your Conservative and Unionist party well over a year ago, I have wanted and thought 'no deal' most likely. As I pointed out before, no preparations had been made but when Johnson was elected and I realised the level of Idiocy we were dealing with (his and yours) all that changed. Of course, if you don't believe that to be true you could always find a post to the contrary :shrug: (But remember, if you make up posts and then quote them, I'll show them up as lies just like every other time you've done that). And you still haven't told us what you think of the Irish Sea Border that you voted for ?

And I'll send your best wishes to Mrs Wz. Between you and me I think the only reason she stays is because I am so well hung and loaded, the poor woman (although I guess the intelligence, wit and charm may help a little) :wink:

How's POTG getting on with finding some friends (pretend ones like you don't count), a job and a relationship. It really can't be good for him spending every waking hour on here posting under his various accounts. I am genuinely trying to help :thumbsup:

As I said before no need to explain yourself, your views on no-deal are well known to all Brexit thread regulars having wittered on for years about how it won't/can't happen and anyone who believes it could is a moron ... numerous posts there for all to see. Amusing that you are now a big fan of no-deal though as quite a few remainers have said anyone who actually wants a no-deal outcome is a **** ... a bit harsh but I have some sympathy with that view.

Many thanks, I would have bet the house wallet-size was a significant factor :p

You should do the comedy circuit with that HILARIOUS multi-account routine :kiss:
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Having read back through the last few pages (my eyes are still bleeding) I see the NSC #teameu unemployed/retired crew are fully supportive of any demand the EU are making in all circumstances and will obviously blame the UK for not bending over and taking it like a trooper ... good grief :facepalm:
 




Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,443
Having read back through the last few pages (my eyes are still bleeding) I see the NSC #teameu unemployed/retired crew are fully supportive of any demand the EU are making in all circumstances and will obviously blame the UK for not bending over and taking it like a trooper ... good grief :facepalm:


Where is your evidence for that sweeping statement?

Are you likely to blame the EU for a 'failure of statecraft' or do you think 'Butterball' Boris Johnston has some responsibility?
 


WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
27,766
As I said before no need to explain yourself, your views on no-deal are well known to all Brexit thread regulars having wittered on for years about how it won't/can't happen and anyone who believes it could is a moron ... numerous posts there for all to see. Amusing that you are now a big fan of no-deal though as quite a few remainers have said anyone who actually wants a no-deal outcome is a **** ... a bit harsh but I have some sympathy with that view.

Many thanks, I would have bet the house wallet-size was a significant factor :p

You should do the comedy circuit with that HILARIOUS multi-account routine :kiss:

And you were doing so well, logging on reading and avoiding posting all day. I wonder what the trigger was ? :lolol:

You seem to have accidentally missed the question again though. I'll try again ???

How do you feel about finding out you voted for a Border in the Irish Sea ?
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Where is your evidence for that sweeping statement?

Are you likely to blame the EU for a 'failure of statecraft' or do you think 'Butterball' Boris Johnston has some responsibility?

Always expecting answers to questions never answering any ... how rude. I replied to your last question (my preferred Brexit) then asked what sort of EU membership you preferred, no answer, don't you know?
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
And you were doing so well, logging on reading and avoiding posting all day. I wonder what the trigger was ? :lolol:

You seem to have accidentally missed the question again though. I'll try again ???

How do you feel about finding out you voted for a Border in the Irish Sea ?

It appears you are now admitting you actually try to monitor peoples log on and log off times all-day long! Go and take Mrs Wz out for dinner you silly sausage :wink:
 


WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
27,766
It appears you are now admitting you actually try to monitor peoples log on and log off times all-day long! Go and take Mrs Wz out for dinner you silly sausage :wink:

It's the Internet, it's digital, you don't have to monitor or count anything, I've been out most of the day :facepalm:

How do you feel about finding out you voted for a Border in the Irish Sea ?
 








nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly
WOW What time did you start drinking?

Come on JC you can do better than that.

Answer him. How do you feel about the border in the Irish sea? Are you OK with the checks and EU supervision?

Why couldn't we have just been sensible in the first place instead of threatening to break international law and undermining the "oven ready" agreement we'd already signed up to?

And please don't call me the C-word if you respond, that wasn't nice the other week...
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Whataboutism :shrug:

How do you feel about finding out you voted for a Border in the Irish Sea ?

You said I've been logging on and reading posts all day and not replying yet you have supposedly been out all day. What internet/digital feature allows you to monitor what other NSC members are supposedly up to?
 


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