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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,743
The Black Country
The Labour party were in power until 2010, the banking crash as we all know was 2008. Running up our countries debts between 1997 till 2010 combined with the feckless lending of greedy bankers TOGETHER created the need for austerity policies.

Is it wise to talk of the ‘need’ for austerity AND Labour running up debts when the Tories have racked up more debt than every Labour government in history combined? ???
 




The Rivet

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2011
4,592
Ah yes, blame everyone BUT the Tories. Austerity was an ideological choice not a necessity. A choice that failed. But you know, keep blaming Labour and the EU if it makes you feel better.

So do you think it is fiscally prudent to continue to borrow and spend other peoples money in perpetuity? I'd hate to think how you budget for your household. Yes I blame Labour for being utterly irresponsible. I don't wear red blinkers. Remember the treasury note? 'There is no money left'
 




midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,743
The Black Country
So do you think it is fiscally prudent to continue to borrow and spend other peoples money in perpetuity? I'd hate to think how you budget for your household. Yes I blame Labour for being utterly irresponsible. I don't wear red blinkers. Remember the treasury note? 'There is no money left'

Yet you’ll happily wear the blue blinkers. If you can’t acknowledge that austerity and Tory policies have had a huge impact on the rise of poverty you are just as blinkered as you presume everyone else to be. And re the evidence of racking up more debt than every Labour government in history combined, it’s a known fact. Do your own homework.
 


The Rivet

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2011
4,592
Yet you’ll happily wear the blue blinkers. If you can’t acknowledge that austerity and Tory policies have had a huge impact on the rise of poverty you are just as blinkered as you presume everyone else to be. And re the evidence of racking up more debt than every Labour government in history combined, it’s a known fact. Do your own homework.

Pathetic.
 






The Rivet

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2011
4,592
Wow. You really can’t face facts can you? Have fun burying your head in the sand :thumbsup:

There is really no point debating with someone who is politically illiterate with a juvenile outlook on the world. Go and play on your Xbox son. I wont respond to you anymore. As I said, pathetic.
 


midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,743
The Black Country
There is really no point debating with someone who is politically illiterate with a juvenile outlook on the world. Go and play on your Xbox son. I wont respond to you anymore. As I said, pathetic.

You may believe yourself to be superior but YOU called me pathetic for daring to disagree with you. Even if I did provide evidence of the Tory debt (for which a simple Google search will point you in the right direction) I’m sure you’d dismiss it as you have the impact of Tory austerity and policy on the rise of poverty in the last 7 years. But you’re right, there really is no point debating with someone who is illiterate and blinkered, and as you appear to be both I wish you a pleasant evening. Oh and I’m a PlayStation man :thumbsup:
 




portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,948
portslade
Yet you’ll happily wear the blue blinkers. If you can’t acknowledge that austerity and Tory policies have had a huge impact on the rise of poverty you are just as blinkered as you presume everyone else to be. And re the evidence of racking up more debt than every Labour government in history combined, it’s a known fact. Do your own homework.

I think you'll find Labour wracked up the biggest debt ever hence the need for austerity just to try and get back on an even keel. God help us if the red crew led by that idiot JC ever get into government. I can guarantee that you will never experience debt like they will cause
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,014
You may believe yourself to be superior but YOU called me pathetic for daring to disagree with you. Even if I did provide evidence of the Tory debt (for which a simple Google search will point you in the right direction) I’m sure you’d dismiss it as you have the impact of Tory austerity and policy on the rise of poverty in the last 7 years.

google found me this, showing poverty has broadly flat lined for 7 years.
 








midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,743
The Black Country
I think you'll find Labour wracked up the biggest debt ever hence the need for austerity just to try and get back on an even keel. God help us if the red crew led by that idiot JC ever get into government. I can guarantee that you will never experience debt like they will cause

Except that’s not true. There was a sharp increase in national debt after the taxpayer shouldered the financial crash for bankers in 2008. But since the Conservatives took power in 2010, there has been a steady increase in government borrowing and the UK national debt has increased by over £555bn.
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,014
Except that’s not true. There was a sharp increase in national debt after the taxpayer shouldered the financial crash for bankers in 2008. But since the Conservatives took power in 2010, there has been a steady increase in government borrowing and the UK national debt has increased by over £555bn.

true, im sure you'll agree they should have imposed real cuts to roll back state spending.
 


midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,743
The Black Country
Yes and I thought the analogy with how money was raised was very pertinent to a said individuals thought processes.

I’ve grown to really appreciate and respect your maturity in our recent back and forths.
 


crookie

Well-known member
Jun 14, 2013
3,383
Back in Sussex
Except that’s not true. There was a sharp increase in national debt after the taxpayer shouldered the financial crash for bankers in 2008. But since the Conservatives took power in 2010, there has been a steady increase in government borrowing and the UK national debt has increased by over £555bn.
So do you agree with increasing Govt spending and therefore increasing Govt debt, or reducing Govt debt through austerity, or as some might call it, attempting to live within your means as a country ? I'm confused as you seem to be against both options

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The Rivet

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2011
4,592
So do you agree with increasing Govt spending and therefore increasing Govt debt, or reducing Govt debt through austerity, or as some might call it, attempting to live within your means as a country ? I'm confused as you seem to be against both options

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Yep, it's a juvenile illiterate view isn't it?
 


crookie

Well-known member
Jun 14, 2013
3,383
Back in Sussex
Yep, it's a juvenile illiterate view isn't it?
Yep, seems not to understand the difference between debt and deficit. Typical illiterate socialist economics. Blame the Tories for total debt increasing, yet at the same time oppose any attempt to reduce Govt expenditure.

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