Nobby Cybergoat
Well-known member
- Jul 19, 2021
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You'll need to hang in there for a while yetI would like it to be before I shuffle off, please.
You'll need to hang in there for a while yetI would like it to be before I shuffle off, please.
I’ll try.You'll need to hang in there for a while yet
Not true, the current electoral system is not in labour’s favour. at 2019 election it only took 38,246 votes to get a Tory mp, 50,837 to get a Labour mp, 336,038 to get a libdem and 866,354 to get a Green vote. So the current system is loaded to help the Conservatives, going to some form of PR would swing the balance towards LabourLabour won’t do that, throwing away future opportunities to govern alone. From their angle, why gift a load of seats to loathed rivals such as the LibDems and Greens?
Before the referendum we hadn't had a vote on our membership of the EU (or whatever at the time the EEC had lined up for everyone, like it or not) for 40 years......The thread for discussion is here The Brexit thread as always. But it was pointed out that we haven't had a poll for 7 years, and what with it being summer. No fence sitting
I think it should be an annual event.Before the referendum we hadn't had a vote on our membership of the EU (or whatever at the time the EEC had lined up for everyone, like it or not) for 40 years......
So wait your f***in' turn! 2056'll be fine (and fair).
Not true, the current electoral system is not in labour’s favour. at 2019 election it only took 38,246 votes to get a Tory mp, 50,837 to get a Labour mp, 336,038 to get a libdem and 866,354 to get a Green vote. So the current system is loaded to help the Conservatives, going to some form of PR would swing the balance towards Labour
Like 70%+ of NSC, I'm sure you would. Democracy is about which way the number of people who can vote, and do vote, wouldn't you agree?I think it should be an annual event.
Classic weak irony; surely you can do better than this....I think it should be an annual event.
I suppose it is true that the self harm Brexit caused had to be endured because of the outcome of the 2016 Referendum (regardless of the manifest lies told by both sides prior to the vote).Like 70%+ of NSC, I'm sure you would. Democracy is about which way the number of people who can vote, and do vote, wouldn't you agree?
Some would undoubtedly welcome some sort of Politburo agency deciding which votes should be counted. Maybe the minority that voted remain would have liked that too...... but i think that's pretty much the way Fascism works. Worse than death, that, eh?
Can't win 'em all!
Like 70%+ of NSC, I'm sure you would. Democracy is about which way the number of people who can vote, and do vote, wouldn't you agree?
Some would undoubtedly welcome some sort of Politburo agency deciding which votes should be counted. Maybe the minority that voted remain would have liked that too...... but i think that's pretty much the way Fascism works. Worse than death, that, eh?
Can't win 'em all!
Like 70%+ of NSC, I'm sure you would. Democracy is about which way the number of people who can vote, and do vote, wouldn't you agree?
Some would undoubtedly welcome some sort of Politburo agency deciding which votes should be counted. Maybe the minority that voted remain would have liked that too...... but i think that's pretty much the way Fascism works. Worse than death, that, eh?
Can't win 'em all!
Local council elections in May, some votes weren’t counted. Over 800 postal votes were ‘found’ a few days later.Like 70%+ of NSC, I'm sure you would. Democracy is about which way the number of people who can vote, and do vote, wouldn't you agree?
Some would undoubtedly welcome some sort of Politburo agency deciding which votes should be counted. Maybe the minority that voted remain would have liked that too...... but i think that's pretty much the way Fascism works. Worse than death, that, eh?
Can't win 'em all!
Much depends on your definition of “free trade” - buy materials from a non-eu country, use those to make widgets then try to sell tariff free in the eu.Stop being so small minded. Have some ambition for our country to trade with the rest of the world freely. There are huge opportunities to tap into. We have a free trade deal with EU and don’t need to be in CU to do that.
Brexit to blame for rising inflation, says former Bank of England governor
Mark Carney says Bank’s negative predictions about consequences of leaving EU ‘proven to be the case’www.theguardian.com
... but Mark Carney is an expert so I expect Brexiters will switch off to his analysis.
I'm going to sit on the fence, and say that I don't like the binary @WATFORD zero has offered, and I'd vote to be in the EU (which I did in 2016). Doing so, will bring a rejoin dividend over night: inflation would plummet, and interest rates will follow soon behind, foreign trade will increase, ...
Winning the referendum feels good. Couldn't care less if some prats think that makes me a fascist, xenophobic racist - I know that I am not, and that they are the bigots. Don't gve a shit about Johnson and the Daily Mail (unless some outraged leaver posts a link and I take a look to see what they are whittering on about). Rejoining the customs union, not hugely against that - that was what people (not me though) voted for in the 1970s. However, knowing the EU's delight in going for the thin end of the wedge, I'm out.So what is the best bit of your Brexit 'win', because from what you have posted on NSC over the years, you obviously are not in a position to share the cabal's 'wins'
But something for you to look forward to, rumour has it that Johnson is getting a weekly column in the Daily Mail. All your Christmases come at once
winning financial ruination feels good....................... i can't argue with thatWinning the referendum feels good
I’ve said this before, we did not vote for a trading agreement in the 70s, as we had already joined the equivalent of EFTA in 1960.Winning the referendum feels good. Couldn't care less if some prats think that makes me a fascist, xenophobic racist - I know that I am not, and that they are the bigots. Don't gve a shit about Johnson and the Daily Mail (unless some outraged leaver posts a link and I take a look to see what they are whittering on about). Rejoining the customs union, not hugely against that - that was what people (not me though) voted for in the 1970s. However, knowing the EU's delight in going for the thin end of the wedge, I'm out.
A deal where the thin end of the wedge was specically, legally and unequivocally excluded, I wouldn't mnd. but I don't trust the EU - or the Labour Party (in spite of Starmer's statements - his rank and file aren't with him) or the Greens to not sneak us back in - including joining the Euro and the European army and all the rest of the bollocks. .....................and as for the Lib Dems!!!! They're shite!