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Amex hotel proposal will be decided at BHCC Planning Committee 17th February







Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Wow! If that is the genuine opinion of LDC then that represents quite some turnaround by the council and the chair, actually admitting that the Amex is 'iconic' and 'deserves something more special' to complement it. In the medium/long term that is good news for the hotel, just means it needs to be redesigned to be more in keeping with the sheer gorgeousness of the stadium.

Well, let's not forget their history was to hang their case on any angle to object that they could think of. Bat / Car collisions etc.

So any reason for objection just serves the overall strategy of objecting really.
 


Monsieur Le Plonk

Lethargy in motion
Apr 22, 2009
1,862
By a lake
The design of the hotel does look quite bland though. When I first saw the plans I remember being quite surprised that they hadn't come up with something more symbiotic and in keeping with the style of the structure it's going to be plonked next to.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,240
Well, let's not forget their history was to hang their case on any angle to object that they could think of. Bat / Car collisions etc.

So any reason for objection just serves the overall strategy of objecting really.

Don't think anybody's going to forget LDC's Amex objections anytime soon. This particular objection is way more easily overcome though eh, just by redesigning the thing to complement the stadium. Which any self-respecting architect probably should have done in the first place.
 




bhanutz

Well-known member
Aug 23, 2005
5,999
Why?

One - it's not in her constituency
Two - she's not on the council - she's an MP
Three - the negotiations for the hotel started while the Green Party still led the council, and therefore were happy for the council to be partners in this project (insofar as they are the landowners)
Four - the council is not Green-led any more
Five - she totally approves of, and loves the stadium, and is a big supporter of AITC and what it seeks to achieve. Therefore it's not being an enormous leap of the imagination that a much-needed hotel and cancer-treating unit would be very much welcomed
Six - the recommendation to refuse is made by officers, not councillors. The largest number of councillors represent the Labour Party.

Oh come on....
 




Aug 11, 2003
2,731
The Open Market
Oh come on....

Bearing in mind only the second sentence in number five in that list is an opinion, and the rest are facts, what first-hand evidence do you have to back up your original claim? Can you cite anything Caroline Lucas has said that is anti-Albion?
 




Marty___Mcfly

I see your wicked plan - I’m a junglist.
Sep 14, 2011
2,251
Here's the image of the proposed hotel from the Argus article:

Amex-Hotel-one.jpg-pwrt3.jpg-pwrt3.jpg
 








bhanutz

Well-known member
Aug 23, 2005
5,999
Bearing in mind only the second sentence in number five in that list is an opinion, and the rest are facts, what first-hand evidence do you have to back up your original claim? Can you cite anything Caroline Lucas has said that is anti-Albion?

Are you a member of the Greens? Sweet Caroline.......
 








highflyer

Well-known member
Jan 21, 2016
2,545
So as I understand, non-partisan council officials have made a recommendation to a planning committee that has two out of twelve green members.

So obviously it will be a green conspiracy if it gets refused.

Obvious if you are really dim that is.
 


Hugo Rune

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 23, 2012
23,615
Brighton
Here's the image of the proposed hotel from the Argus article:

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It's a shame the beautiful curved lines of the Amex are not reflected in this dull block design. Hopefully the hotel itself is not the issue and planners just want a better design. I have to say I agree.

For what it's worth, the long term plans of both Universities make will make the hotel project profitable in my opinion. I expect both institutions to invest millions and millions over the next 5-10 years. Ideas mooted for the Brighton site are particularly exciting; the University now has new leadership which will make it happen. I'm hoping this model is followed at Falmer:
http://loughboroughsport.com
 


JJ McClure

Go Jags
Jul 7, 2003
11,092
Hassocks
What's the problem?
It's a hotel...and it looks like a hotel.
What do they expect?
Sydney Opera House?
The hanging Gardens of Babylon?
 


symyjym

Banned
Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
It's a shame the beautiful curved lines of the Amex are not reflected in this dull block design. Hopefully the hotel itself is not the issue and planners just want a better design. I have to say I agree.

For what it's worth, the long term plans of both Universities make will make the hotel project profitable in my opinion. I expect both institutions to invest millions and millions over the next 5-10 years. Ideas mooted for the Brighton site are particularly exciting; the University now has new leadership which will make it happen. I'm hoping this model is followed at Falmer:
http://loughboroughsport.com

Yep, this was my first thought. Even just a curved roof would complement the Amex style.
 






The Argus have only just picked up the story from NSC now.

However, they include this bit too: "The council has received independent advice from Crosthwaites Leisure Property Specialists who believe the development cost of a mid-range hotel makes it unviable and therefore requires the club’s subsidiary company The Community Stadium to build it at a loss."

If the hotel is designed to generate income for the business I would think, and hope, that the Crosthwaites report can be readily refuted. However, if the application doesn't demonstrate commercial viability and the Community Stadium Ltd doesn't get the development costs back over 50 years then the council officers may have a point.
The CSL is not a subsidiary of the football club either.
 


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