A (fake internet) Australian view of immigration

[sydney]

I'll always thank the Aussies for this beauty

http://db3.stb.s-msn.com/i/2C/57CB85BE19F5D294C523851864D40.jpg

now i'm worried about you.

 

[daveinprague]

Plenty of examples of it.

Racism used to be construed as pertaining to skin colour.

Now it encompasses nationalities, cultures, religions etc

It's meaning has changed a lot over the years.

Well, the dictionary defines race and culture...

But the only people, and im not saying that youre an example, i hear saying this in England are racists trying to hide their racism, and ive
seen plenty of examples of that...
You may get a few people misusing the word, but mostly not... but that minority is picked up by the racists as legitimate proof that the word racist is misused nowadays..mostly against them... they are the ones clouding the issue, and deliberately at that.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Ah, so the "stolen generations" is full of lies and propoganda to slur the Australian nation but the "lost children" is an accurate portrayal of the barbaric Brits!
Stolen Generations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What a very objective viewpoint.

Heard of the movie Rabbit Proof Fence. Promoted as being completely true and a factual account of an example of the stolen generations.

Later to be found out to be full of propoganda and nothing like the truth is was portrayed to be telling.

Notice how there is no mention of how full blooded aboriginals used to take mixed blood babies and smash their heads in on trees?

If you knew this practice was happening would you not think about taking children?

 

[User removed 4]

I'll always thank the Aussies for this beauty

http://db3.stb.s-msn.com/i/2C/57CB85BE19F5D294C523851864D40.jpg

Plain jane super brain, she was a sort, whatever became of her ? one of the few things we concur on.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Well, the dictionary defines race and culture...

But the only people, and im not saying that youre an example, i hear saying this in England are racists trying to hide their racism, and ive
seen plenty of examples of that...
You may get a few using it as a cover all... but mostly not... but that minority is picked up by the racists as legitimate proof that the word racist is misused nowadays

Dictionaries change the meanings of words over time.

I find it a complete wank of a word to be honest, as are the people who throw it out there any chance they get.

People haven't liked each other from the year dot. I accept that as our past, our present and our future.

Denying this is denying humanity in all its warts and all traits.

 

[User removed 4]

Do you not think that part of the reason those countries are now 'basket cases' (as you put it) is down to being under British control previously? They seemed to have managed beforehand OK.

They really , really didnt actually, you'll find that famine and war were just as prevalent as they are now, albeit the war was on tribal lines as opposed to nation states, and the british , out of all the colonial powers left the fairest legacy, you should just look at some of the things the belgians and portuguese did.

 

[Hamilton]

"so long as you're a good bloke, work hard"

Pretty similar to the UK then. There we go. We're all happy.

There's a story (could be Plato or Aristotle) where he talks about meeting a guy outside the gates to his city. The guy asks what the city is like to live in. Aristotle (let's say it is him) first asks what it is like where the guy comes from. "Horrible," he says "nobody talks to anybody else; you can't trust a soul and the place is full of liars and deceivers." Aristotle shrugs and says "it'll be pretty much the same here." And so the guy chooses to pass the city by.

A little later another guy rocks up and asks the same question. Aristotle again asks him what it is like where he is from. "OK," says the guy, "there are some good people and some bad people. It's not perfect, but where is?" Aristotle looks at him and says, "It'll be pretty much the same here."

 

[daveinprague]

They really , really didnt actually, you'll find that famine and war were just as prevalent as they are now, albeit the war was on tribal lines as opposed to nation states, and the british , out of all the colonial powers left the fairest legacy, you should just look at some of the things the belgians and portuguese did.

Youre right there Bushy.. the Portugues even took fecking light bulbs when they left Mozambique...
Trouble with independence for a lot of countries in Africa, I think... the people that were put in power where not normally the people in the country wanted, which ended up causing civil wars etc..plus western corporations bunging big lumps of cash at leaders in some of the countries and then given ridiculous rights to local resources etc..

 

[goldstone]

Do you not think that part of the reason those countries are now 'basket cases' (as you put it) is down to being under British control previously? They seemed to have managed beforehand OK.

Absolutely not. The indisputable fact is that the British had a very positive influence of those countries .... all except for ramming Christianity down the throats of the poor Africans.

 

[Nibble]

Plain jane super brain, she was a sort, whatever became of her ? one of the few things we concur on.

Neighbours: where are they now?

What happened to our favourite residents of Ramsay Street?
Now: Annie Jones (Jane Harris)

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Annie has continued to star on the small screen in her native Oz, after a career break to nurse her mother in the 90s. She's popped up in shows including Blue Heelers, Stingers and City Homicide (we've never heard of them either). She returned to her old Ramsay Street haunt for the 20th anniversary of the show.
Now: Annie Jones (Jane Harris)

 

[daveinprague]

My missus in England was mixed race South African and quite left wing but...she always said...they came here, telling us to look up to god, whilst the feckers were busy taking the gold and diamonds out of the ground.

 

[User removed 4]

Youre right there Bushy.. the Portugues even took fecking light bulbs when they left Mozambique...
Trouble with independence for a lot of countries in Africa, I think... the people that were put in power where not normally the people in the country wanted, which ended up causing civil wars etc..plus western corporations bunging big lumps of cash at leaders in some of the countries and then given ridiculous rights to local resources etc..

One of the things that the "western powers" (wrongly) assume is that democracy is the form of government best suited for everyone, this is quite plainly incorrect, in my view tribalism, or colonialism are the only systems that seem to work at present in Africa.

 

[Indurain's Lungs]

Heard of the movie Rabbit Proof Fence. Promoted as being completely true and a factual account of an example of the stolen generations.

Later to be found out to be full of propoganda and nothing like the truth is was portrayed to be telling.

Notice how there is no mention of how full blooded aboriginals used to take mixed blood babies and smash their heads in on trees?

If you knew this practice was happening would you not think about taking children?

Having spent a year in Melbourne, institutional racism was part of the reason I left. The media in Australia think its ok to insult any racial group and then if they get upset, say they can't take a joke. There are racists in Britain but at least the general population think its probably not acceptable and would be guarded about expressing these views to people they'd only just met.

I went into hospital for a hip injection, the first thing nurse said to me after hello was, "Oh, you're a doctor. We prefer you to all those brown doctors that come over." Unbelievable.

Your comment, trying to say, "well the aboriginals were bad too" is just petty. It wasn't that long ago that the Australian PM made an official apology for the behaviour around the stolen generations. You might also want to look up the history of the 'white Australia' policy that existed until the 1970s.

 

[Tooting Gull]

One of the things that the "western powers" (wrongly) assume is that democracy is the form of government best suited for everyone, this is quite plainly incorrect, in my view tribalism, or colonialism are the only systems that seem to work at present in Africa.

And corruption still seems to be very popular both in Africa - and in places like Russia, other Eastern European states, and Turkey.

 

[Seagull58]

Heard of the movie Rabbit Proof Fence. Promoted as being completely true and a factual account of an example of the stolen generations.

Later to be found out to be full of propoganda and nothing like the truth is was portrayed to be telling.

Notice how there is no mention of how full blooded aboriginals used to take mixed blood babies and smash their heads in on trees?

If you knew this practice was happening would you not think about taking children?

Please don't try to justify 70 years of stealing babies by blaming on the full-blooded aboriginals killing mixed blood babies. It was done to destroy aboriginal culture and assimilate them into white immigrant culture. Don't blame it all on "those white protestant Brits" either. Some of your countrymen have apologised for the acts and the British government has also apologised for shipping children to Australia under false pretences and for the horrors that were inflicted on them.

 

[Seagull58]

One of the things that the "western powers" (wrongly) assume is that democracy is the form of government best suited for everyone, this is quite plainly incorrect, in my view tribalism, or colonialism are the only systems that seem to work at present in Africa.

Hmmm, I'm not sure that all the people that fight, vote and sometimes die for democracy in countries like South Africa, Egypt, DRC, Angola, Namibia, Tunisia etc. etc. would agree wholeheartedly with you.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Having spent a year in Melbourne, institutional racism was part of the reason I left. The media in Australia think its ok to insult any racial group and then if they get upset, say they can't take a joke. There are racists in Britain but at least the general population think its probably not acceptable and would be guarded about expressing these views to people they'd only just met.

I went into hospital for a hip injection, the first thing nurse said to me after hello was, "Oh, you're a doctor. We prefer you to all those brown doctors that come over." Unbelievable.

Your comment, trying to say, "well the aboriginals were bad too" is just petty. It wasn't that long ago that the Australian PM made an official apology for the behaviour around the stolen generations. You might also want to look up the history of the 'white Australia' policy that existed until the 1970s.

Without a doubt you have far more openly vocal "racists" over there.

We have nothing like the BNP here so its quite presumptuous of you to suggest your general population is any better than out here.

I'm well aware of the "white Australia policy". It was developed and maintained by the British Protestant power base here for many years.

Nothing to do with my ancestors though. Some of those poor buggers were actually banned from having gravestones on their graves due to laws passed by the same British Protestant system that oppressed the Aboriginals.

 

[Seagull58]

Without a doubt you have far more openly vocal "racists" over there.

We have nothing like the BNP here so its quite presumptuous of you to suggest your general population is any better than out here.

I'm well aware of the "white Australia policy". It was developed and maintained by the British Protestant power base here for many years.

Nothing to do with my ancestors though. Some of those poor buggers were actually banned from having gravestones on their graves due to laws passed by the same British Protestant system that oppressed the Aboriginals.

So now you DO accept that the lost generations is broadly factually correct and not all propaganda and/or the fault of aboriginals killing mixed race babies! But its nothing to do with your ancestors because they were Irish catholics and it was the Brits that did it. We'll gloss over the "Christian Brothers" and their physical and sexual abuse of Britsh immigrant boys for 30 years, shall we?

 

[daveinprague]

I think in Africa particularly, the western colonialists tended to leave fairly conservative/right wing black leaders in power when western nations left, when the population most likely wanted a more socialist future....mainly due to inherent poverty in the country..piled the leaders up with money, and military aid to keep the population down etc...as im fairly sure during the 60s and 70s, the west were terrified of any nations becoming socialist/communist

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Please don't try to justify 70 years of stealing babies by blaming on the full-blooded aboriginals killing mixed blood babies. It was done to destroy aboriginal culture and assimilate them into white immigrant culture. Don't blame it all on "those white protestant Brits" either. Some of your countrymen have apologised for the acts and the British government has also apologised for shipping children to Australia under false pretences and for the horrors that were inflicted on them.

Was it?

There's been plenty of academic studies that counter that argument. The fact you were not aware of the practice of killing mixed blood babies by Aboriginals shows you have great chunks of the full story missing from your data base.

We've apologized to the Aboriginals, when will you apologize to the Irish?

What the Irish endured was far longer and far more brutal at times than anything that happened out here.