A (fake internet) Australian view of immigration

[Waynflete]

Absolutely not. The indisputable fact is that the British had a very positive influence of those countries .... all except for ramming Christianity down the throats of the poor Africans.

I'd look up the meaning of 'indisputable' if I were you.

 

[Triggaaar]

Actually the English stole it. Nothing to do with the Australians.

If you want be pedantic, then you should be talking British, not English. And the actual people you're talking about, are the ancestors of modern Australians. Australia was, by definition, taken by Australians (not necessarily originally, but finally).

The nation that is Australia today was not founded by Aboriginals.

It was colonized by the English and it was through the hard work of people from all around the globe that modern day Australia came to be.

I agree with your basic point, although I assume that most of the hard work you talk of was by the British (modern Australian ancestors) immigrants. Weren't the British laying the foundations for Australia long before immigrants from the rest of the world came in?

At least our education system promotes aboriginal culture and history.

How's yours going recognizing English attrocities around the world?

Fairly good I'd think, although you need to understand that we're British. Atrocities have been committed around the globe for centuries, by pretty much all societies. Try not to get fixated on the idea that it's all by one country.

 

[looney]

OK only read first page so excuse me if the obvious has been pointed out.


1. No way did a lefty like Gillard spout that.

2. She is the most unpopular leader in Oz ever and is leading labour to electral meltdown. Maybe she should say something like that?

 

[BadFish]

Ah, so the "stolen generations" is full of lies and propoganda to slur the Australian nation but the "lost children" is an accurate portrayal of the barbaric Brits!
Stolen Generations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What a very objective viewpoint.

And of course the Australian government took no part in the lost children thing.

There is a lazy truth over here that says that all the terrible things throughout history were done by the Europeans whilst all the brave heroic stuff was done by pioneering Aussie battlers. It is a very handy way of sidestepping any guilt or responsibility for anything.

Depending on your viewpoint Ned Kelly was the first Aussie hero sticking it up the system or he was an Irish Criminal.

I suppose it is a bit like Andy Murray being a miserable Scottish failure who won't win a grand slam until he does when he will become a British hero.

 

[BadFish]

Ah, so the "stolen generations" is full of lies and propoganda to slur the Australian nation but the "lost children" is an accurate portrayal of the barbaric Brits!
Stolen Generations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What a very objective viewpoint.

And of course the Australian government took no part in the lost children thing.

There is a lazy truth over here that says that all the terrible things throughout history were done by the Europeans whilst all the brave heroic stuff was done by pioneering Aussie battlers. It is a very handy way of sidestepping any guilt or responsibility for anything.

Depending on your viewpoint Ned Kelly was the first Aussie hero sticking it up the system or he was an Irish Criminal.

I suppose it is a bit like Andy Murray being a miserable Scottish failure who won't win a grand slam until he does when he will become a British hero.

 

[wellquickwoody]

And their culture will be all the the poorer for it.

 

[BadFish]

Was it?

There's been plenty of academic studies that counter that argument. The fact you were not aware of the practice of killing mixed blood babies by Aboriginals shows you have great chunks of the full story missing from your data base.

We've apologized to the Aboriginals, when will you apologize to the Irish?

What the Irish endured was far longer and far more brutal at times than anything that happened out here.

How can you say that WE have apologised when you continue to deny any Australian reponsibility?

 

[BadFish]

No I'm not joking.

Cricket is on the decline here. Shit sport that more and more people have little to no interest in. Which is why the number of junior players is declining.

The Ashes is one of the most boring sporting events on the planet. How anyone can sit around for 5 days and watch that crap I know not how.

I think you are mistaking your opinion (and mine) with the rest of the country. During the Ashes i have been forced to take and interest because everyone I meet wants to discuss it with me. More so during the 5 0 whitewash than the last couple granted. To my eye cricket is still hugely popular here and the ashes is the most important series by far.

 

[BadFish]

Ahhh AFL. What a heap of shit. Sat down and watched Sydney swans against Melbourbe last night. How that qualifies as a sport I'll never know. The amount of fumbling that goes on is outrageous considering they are supposed to be professionals. No wonder no-one else plays it. Tripe.

Keep watching it is a fantastic sport once you understand what is going on. If you get the chance to watch a game live it is a magnificent experience.

 

[BadFish]

Good on the aussies as no law states they have to open the flood gates like the rest of us

It is right there in the second verse of our national anthem.

"For those who come across the sea, We've boundless plains to share."

 

[mistahclarke]

Why?

You've had more race riots in 1 year than we've had in 100.

There was two in the 6 months I was there? Is that actually true?

Mob violence envelops Cronulla - National - smh.com.au

 

[BadFish]

OK only read first page so excuse me if the obvious has been pointed out.


1. No way did a lefty like Gillard spout that.

2. She is the most unpopular leader in Oz ever and is leading labour to electral meltdown. Maybe she should say something like that?

She has one thing going for her though

Every i see her and think how much I hate her she is normally followed by Tony Abbott and i think she's not so bad.

 

[rcf0712]

This statement is a work of fiction. It's been doing the rounds on the internet and email for a while. The words do not belong to Julia Gillard.

I don't think that's going to stop a good old fashioned NSC binfest mate, more's the pity....

 

[rcf0712]

She has one thing going for her though

Every i see her and think how much I hate her she is normally followed by Tony Abbott and i think she's not so bad.

absofuckinlutely - what a detestable human being he is

 

[Ex-Staffs Gull]

Seeing her i can take, its when she opens her mouth i want to damage my eardrums! Abbott, meh. Bit like the uk really, hobsons choice.

She has one thing going for her though

Every i see her and think how much I hate her she is normally followed by Tony Abbott and i think she's not so bad.

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[Tyrone Biggums]

How can you say that WE have apologised when you continue to deny any Australian reponsibility?

I'm not denying all responsibility.

I'm denying that as some people put it "a systematic attempt of genocide" was attempted. It clearly wasn't and anyone who thinks that there weren't people who genuinely worried for the safety of mixed blood children involved clearly has their head up their arse.

Inform any rabid stolen generation supporter that the full blooded aboriginals used to kill mixed blood babies back in the day and the bullshit they will carry on with is mind numbingly moronic. Nobody denies that children were taken. They merely refute the circumstances behind why a lot of children were removed.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

She has one thing going for her though

Every i see her and think how much I hate her she is normally followed by Tony Abbott and i think she's not so bad.

Every time I see her It reminds me she's the biggest liar to have ever lead the Australian nation.

Will go down in Australian history as one of the most incompetent and untrustworthy PMs ever.

 

[goldstone]

OK only read first page so excuse me if the obvious has been pointed out.


1. No way did a lefty like Gillard spout that.

2. She is the most unpopular leader in Oz ever and is leading labour to electral meltdown. Maybe she should say something like that?

Whether it's an accurate quote or not, it sure created a heated debate on here ...

 

[BadFish]

Whether it's an accurate quote or not, it sure created a heated debate on here ...

There is an interesting series on in Australia at the moment called Dumb Drunk and Racist. Anyone interested in the stuff should take a look if they get the chance.

To my mind it has gone out of it's way to find racism in Australia but if you can look past this it is very interesting. Especially the one on now which is looking at the way aboriginals have been and are still treated.

 

[Indurain's Lungs]

There is an interesting series on in Australia at the moment called Dumb Drunk and Racist. Anyone interested in the stuff should take a look if they get the chance.

To my mind it has gone out of it's way to find racism in Australia but if you can look past this it is very interesting. Especially the one on now which is looking at the way aboriginals have been and are still treated.

BadFish, you seem to have an extremely balanced view of the situation. It's very refreshing after Tyrone's rants.