Good shoutMaybe that's why we're after Harvey Elliott - because Enciso is off?
Good shoutMaybe that's why we're after Harvey Elliott - because Enciso is off?
possibly, be very Brighton to let Enciso go and then Elliott turns us down last minute.Good shout
I would rather have Enciso.. I don't rate H Elliot at all.. 35 million is stupid crazy! He's a fringe player at best .. I wouldn't pay more than 5 millionpossibly, be very Brighton to let Enciso go and then Elliott turns us down last minute.
I would rather have Enciso to be honest, he is going to be a real star.
Especially as we got £35m for MacAllister. Is Elliot really worth the same amount? And as you say for a position we don't desperately need. Prefer to spend that sum on a CB.I agree but I will be surprised if TB forks out £35-40m in a January transfer when we don’t currently need that position covered to get us through the rest of the season
We paid more for Rutter.Especially as we got £35m for MacAllister. Is Elliot really worth the same amount? And as you say for a position we don't desperately need. Prefer to spend that sum on a CB.
He is so young and has some exceptional qualities. If he develops some other aspects of his game as he matures, he could be very, very good indeed. £60m+ good.£35m would be a mental return on a player who hasn’t done much (but a lot of potential with the right coach)
No doubt he's a good player but surely there are more pressing priorities to strengthen?We paid more for Rutter.
Clearly Mac was always worth more.
Not sure why people are doubting Elliot. He’d be a step up in quality.
In style, if Elliot is more similar to a Mac Allister or Groß with Enciso similar to a player like Grealish, I’m afraid I’d want Elliot as a midfield playmaker (who can tackle and track back properly) because that position is more important to the current squad than a dribbling, shooting wonderkid.I would rather have Enciso.. I don't rate H Elliot at all.. 35 million is stupid crazy! He's a fringe player at best .. I wouldn't pay more than 5 million
Totally agree. It makes no sense even if Enciso left. Especially with Facu back in the summer. But our transfers often don’t entirely make sense.No doubt he's a good player but surely there are more pressing priorities to strengthen?
Mackie was sold for peanuts as far as I’m concerned - he was worth far more than than £35m ( even with add ons) - a WC winner just 24 years old with his whole career ahead of him? - unfortunately with McAllister out of contract that summer, in the previous October ( following lots of exposure at the WC) we agreed a release clause as a condition of Mackie agreeing to renew his contract to 2025, which Liverpool were able to trigger. ( I am not sure why we didn’t renew his contract before the WC - or maybe we tried to?)Especially as we got £35m for MacAllister. Is Elliot really worth the same amount? And as you say for a position we don't desperately need. Prefer to spend that sum on a CB.
All Things being equal he was worth a lot more than £60m, given we’d just shifted Caicedo for not far off double that.Mackie was sold for peanuts as far as I’m concerned - he was worth far more than than £35m ( even with add ons) - a WC winner just 24 years old with his whole career ahead of him? - unfortunately with McAllister out of contract that summer, in the previous October ( following lots of exposure at the WC) we agreed a release clause as a condition of Mackie agreeing to renew his contract to 2025, which Liverpool were able to trigger. ( I am not sure why we didn’t renew his contract before the WC - or maybe we tried to?)
It is really hard to compare the transfer values of players with other players but for me, were it not for the contract winding down and the release clause, we should have got £60m for our MF star.
A reminder the lad is 20£35m would be a mental return on a player who hasn’t done much (but a lot of potential with the right coach)
Maybe the interest is being generated by Enciso's agent to negotiate a better contract??
We spent similar on minteh when he had done a lot less than Enciso. It’s the going rate£35m would be a mental return on a player who hasn’t done much (but a lot of potential with the right coach)
The question is not whether Enciso should be in the first 11 with a fit squad.He is so young and has some exceptional qualities. If he develops some other aspects of his game as he matures, he could be very, very good indeed. £60m+ good.
TB is a gambler though and Enciso should not be in the 1st 11 with a fit squad. I wonder if this could be too good not to agree to. A fat old sell-on could make it a deal worth doing and then Atalanta do the heavy lifting of getting him to his potential?
That said, I be gutted as would my son who idolises him.
I thought we had agreed the contract extension before the WC, which wa swhy our agreed release clause was not as high as it should have been.Mackie was sold for peanuts as far as I’m concerned - he was worth far more than than £35m ( even with add ons) - a WC winner just 24 years old with his whole career ahead of him? - unfortunately with McAllister out of contract that summer, in the previous October ( following lots of exposure at the WC) we agreed a release clause as a condition of Mackie agreeing to renew his contract to 2025, which Liverpool were able to trigger. ( I am not sure why we didn’t renew his contract before the WC - or maybe we tried to?)
It is really hard to compare the transfer values of players with other players but for me, were it not for the contract winding down and the release clause, we should have got £60m for our MF star.