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[Albion] 2025 January Transfer Window OPEN - incoming/outgoing









slimes

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Aug 23, 2011
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possibly, be very Brighton to let Enciso go and then Elliott turns us down last minute.

I would rather have Enciso to be honest, he is going to be a real star.
I would rather have Enciso.. I don't rate H Elliot at all.. 35 million is stupid crazy! He's a fringe player at best .. I wouldn't pay more than 5 million
 




The Fits

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Jun 29, 2020
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Enciso in Elliott out for around the same amount would be incredible business. Also a great move for Julio. I’d probably rather keep him but sure he’d at least want to talk to them if they are interested.
 




southstandandy

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Jul 9, 2003
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I agree but I will be surprised if TB forks out £35-40m in a January transfer when we don’t currently need that position covered to get us through the rest of the season 🤷‍♂️
Especially as we got £35m for MacAllister. Is Elliot really worth the same amount? And as you say for a position we don't desperately need. Prefer to spend that sum on a CB.
 




Hugo Rune

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£35m would be a mental return on a player who hasn’t done much (but a lot of potential with the right coach)
He is so young and has some exceptional qualities. If he develops some other aspects of his game as he matures, he could be very, very good indeed. £60m+ good.

TB is a gambler though and Enciso should not be in the 1st 11 with a fit squad. I wonder if this could be too good not to agree to. A fat old sell-on could make it a deal worth doing and then Atalanta do the heavy lifting of getting him to his potential?

That said, I be gutted as would my son who idolises him.
 






Hugo Rune

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I would rather have Enciso.. I don't rate H Elliot at all.. 35 million is stupid crazy! He's a fringe player at best .. I wouldn't pay more than 5 million
In style, if Elliot is more similar to a Mac Allister or Groß with Enciso similar to a player like Grealish, I’m afraid I’d want Elliot as a midfield playmaker (who can tackle and track back properly) because that position is more important to the current squad than a dribbling, shooting wonderkid.
 






Zeberdi

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Especially as we got £35m for MacAllister. Is Elliot really worth the same amount? And as you say for a position we don't desperately need. Prefer to spend that sum on a CB.
Mackie was sold for peanuts as far as I’m concerned - he was worth far more than than £35m ( even with add ons) - a WC winner just 24 years old with his whole career ahead of him? - unfortunately with McAllister out of contract that summer, in the previous October ( following lots of exposure at the WC) we agreed a release clause as a condition of Mackie agreeing to renew his contract to 2025, which Liverpool were able to trigger. ( I am not sure why we didn’t renew his contract before the WC - or maybe we tried to?)

It is really hard to compare the transfer values of players with other players but for me, were it not for the contract winding down and the release clause, we should have got £60m for our MF star. ☹️

Edit - forgot WC was in the November not October, so we did agree the extension before the WC.
 
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DJ NOBO

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In a world where Minteh and Rutter cost 30-35m last summer, £35m for Enciso is a fair price.
They are all talented players who may or may not take the next step up.
We are not going to get more than that amount for someone who isn’t a first team regular.
The same goes for Ferguson - the fact that he hasn’t been selected even when fit, speaks for itself to other clubs.
 


DJ NOBO

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Mackie was sold for peanuts as far as I’m concerned - he was worth far more than than £35m ( even with add ons) - a WC winner just 24 years old with his whole career ahead of him? - unfortunately with McAllister out of contract that summer, in the previous October ( following lots of exposure at the WC) we agreed a release clause as a condition of Mackie agreeing to renew his contract to 2025, which Liverpool were able to trigger. ( I am not sure why we didn’t renew his contract before the WC - or maybe we tried to?)

It is really hard to compare the transfer values of players with other players but for me, were it not for the contract winding down and the release clause, we should have got £60m for our MF star. ☹️
All Things being equal he was worth a lot more than £60m, given we’d just shifted Caicedo for not far off double that.
It was a shame with Mac that it didn’t turn into a bidding war.
You win some you lose some.
 










DJ NOBO

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£35m would be a mental return on a player who hasn’t done much (but a lot of potential with the right coach)
We spent similar on minteh when he had done a lot less than Enciso. It’s the going rate
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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He is so young and has some exceptional qualities. If he develops some other aspects of his game as he matures, he could be very, very good indeed. £60m+ good.

TB is a gambler though and Enciso should not be in the 1st 11 with a fit squad. I wonder if this could be too good not to agree to. A fat old sell-on could make it a deal worth doing and then Atalanta do the heavy lifting of getting him to his potential?

That said, I be gutted as would my son who idolises him.
The question is not whether Enciso should be in the first 11 with a fit squad.
The question is whether he is a significant drop down in quality when our first 11 aren't fit and whether he has reached his ceiling.

Down to opinions, but I don't see him as not good enough for this squad, and I think his ceiling is higher than some of our other players,
Accepting £35m wouldn't be amazingly good business, in comparison to how much he could be worth in 2 seasons time
 


Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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Mackie was sold for peanuts as far as I’m concerned - he was worth far more than than £35m ( even with add ons) - a WC winner just 24 years old with his whole career ahead of him? - unfortunately with McAllister out of contract that summer, in the previous October ( following lots of exposure at the WC) we agreed a release clause as a condition of Mackie agreeing to renew his contract to 2025, which Liverpool were able to trigger. ( I am not sure why we didn’t renew his contract before the WC - or maybe we tried to?)

It is really hard to compare the transfer values of players with other players but for me, were it not for the contract winding down and the release clause, we should have got £60m for our MF star. ☹️
I thought we had agreed the contract extension before the WC, which wa swhy our agreed release clause was not as high as it should have been.
 


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