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just got back from ransacking all the oap homes between liverpool and hampshire, first game of the season counts for little as was sad above but we had a great weekend away and my poor son who has been cursed with being a leeds fan finally admitted that for the first time in a long time he had...

happy birthday yorkie. we hope it's a good one.

then we will all be happy. and we will attend. i just spent out on four away season tickets. we will be there.

nah, just too dumb to be able to type ;) and i am a real leeds supporter.

i agree. i dont think i would call him good, he just screwed me over as well. he is clever (rightly or wrongly) though. was one step ahead and forced everyone to blink to him. but yes. i agree about the football industry and people who are solely after self gain stuff. not really sure there is...

more stuff posted on here (by brighton fans) than on any of the leeds boards ;)

ps bates is a wally but i dont think we can really blame him single handedly for football being the way it is right now.

i have i have posted in many of them and had plenty of good debate about the rights and wrongs of it all. i was just curious what you think give your you are a leeds fan, time will tell comment.

absolutely. but that is not bates single handedly. football was ruined in 1992 and has been on a slippery slope down since then.

i am curious about what other people think and their opinions though, whatever football team they support.

but he is a business man, in it to make a profit. and that is exactly what he is doing.

How do you see it?

mr bates is a very clever business man. he now has a debt free club, with a relatively decent squad and some wealthy people lining up to buy it from him. job done!

let him laugh. i just hope he have learnt from the error of his ways in the past.

naw ridsdale is at cardiff now and bates has introduced a wage cap.

no not butler. but kelly and bakke were both on wages upwards of £25k. think those were the only two left by then. and there is no one on those sorted of wages now.

>> surely leeds would be 8th?

poverty stricken is so last month.

we have got the information from leeds that on average (a full cheese wedge - 1,800 fans) and bearing in mind we have sold out already our allocations, that are more than that that, away fans at leeds spend £18,600 on average per game. at leeds that is now four players weeks wages. the police...

you would be surprised just how many people swallow bates words as gospel and do not stop to think he is a business man playing everyone at their own game. and he won. but that other poster is right. we wont be putting any money into clubs other than our ticket prices. there is a definite...