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Which is why they did not relegate us.

I think it will be reduced to between -6/-10. I suppose it depends how many of these other clubs owe money to the HMRC and who might find themselves in a similar position in the future.

No, because they cannot prove any of the 'financial irregularities'. Will be interesting, I certainly do not think it's going to be a 71-0 uphold vote.

Judgement day. I have just been reading Mawhinney's report that he will be presenting at the meeting, it's pretty interesting and not just for Leeds. I don't know how to C&P from a pdf file, but I think the Yorkshire Evening Post is going to put it up online. They really wanted to boot us into...

This is the only place online that I have written anything about the McCanns and one of the tribute messages had references to things I/Paddy have said in this thread. Laura - I know it would never be Hans and I certainly wasn't aiming those comments at him, I just tagged my message onto that...

Nevermind.

I tried to find a similar thing for my son recently but they are all made of this horrid fake plastic stuff now. (Or were they always?) He settled for creating an Airfix Luffwaffe airfield instead. http://www.emodels.co.uk/plastic-kits/airfix-wwii-luftwaffe-airfield-06902-p-9330.html

Heh. He's not Paddy's brother in law though to make it 'our' BIL. He's Paddy's brother but only 'my' brother in law. I think? He is very doom and gloom, about how the football club will be gone long before Bates will be, about the -15 points punishing the wrong people.

That was my BIL just on now talking about Bates.

never believe anything a chairman of any company tells you. but true or not there will be some interesting discussions tomorrow.

i'm off out in a bit so will be bowing out of this thread, certainly dont want to upset anyone. tomorrow is the day, i am sick of it all. it won't be over tomorrow anyway. one small part of it will be but we've got months of court rumblings and other aggrieved creditor things going on.

we'll just have to agree to disagree, then because i see it that who ever or what ever happened to madeleine happened because a sick awful person was around/an accident/or we just don't know, and because her parents were not protecting her.

some are concerned about their own well being and finances and if minus 25 is the precedent from now. they are wanting some strong clarification from mawhinney tomorrow. will be an interesting meeting.

i posted this earlier, i have hand delivered letters to several clubs with reference to tommorrows vote. managed to get face to face with one chairman and two club secretary who have some interesting viewpoints on the situation and are keen to hear each side of the coin tomorrow.

i'm a big girl me when it comes to the kids and their safety. the heartbreak that losing a child causes is something no one should ever suffer, however it occurs, which is why i find it hard to understand why people are prepared to take that risk.

shame those arent the facts though. as they stated there was no babysitter in the flat because they didnt want to leave the children with strangers. but were/are happy using the kids club all day. leaving three babies aged 3 and under is negligent. i dont care how far away you go, how often...

well i read my wife four posts on this thread and i dont see her mention anything about blood. everything she has said on this thread has been about the mccanns turning their backs on their kids and leaving them alone, uncared for. my wife is as good a parent as she can be,she doesnt switch off...

like what? i read her posts but i am curious.

not sure why my wife stating that when she became a mum it is her place to ensure the children are cared for gets up your nose? but different strokes and all that. anyone who does leave their kids alone is not fulfilling their obligations as a parent. there is no grey area there, black and white...

my wife is many things but i wouldn't have her any other way and if she thought leaving three babies alone so we could go to dinner was a good idea she wouldnt be my wife nor have the honour or birthing my off spring. people judge others all the time my wife has been racked over the coals on...