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Not feeling picked on at all! I guess I'm just fed up with the same old choice - Labour or Tories. Right now its a no brainer of course but lets be honest, there is zero trust, respect or belief in all politics, politicians and parties amongst most of the electorate. IMHO, we need everyone's...

Totally agree and it really sums up why they are finished as a political force for a long time. Historical parallels with Labour and many other parties around the world that remain in power too long. I used to be anti (platform to extremists, 1930s Germany etc) PR but now I am convinced its the...

A version of the classic line from Spitting Image!

Wouldn't it be amazing if there was a real purpose to voting the forever blue seats such as Chichester (and loads all around the country that I cant name). If people really felt this come the GE, I reckon the turnout would break all records!

Well, i cant imagine voting for anyone else. But I would like to know what I am voting for and be inspired, rather than voting for 'anyone but the Tories' which would be the case right now.

Correct. If the councils had been given the all the sale income to build new houses then this would have made a difference. But even then, if the first tenant has a right to buy then nothing is gained in the long term. A new updated version of council housing, without right to buy, has the...

I agree with you but not a reason to be dishonest surely?

As you might be inferring, its a tad more complicated than just Brexit though it does play a part. British supermarkets have screwed UK farmers and growers so hard for so many years that margins are almost non existent. Tesco and the like always buy a % of imported produce at a higher price...

Surely that means that they go into power being as dishonest as the Tories? If Labour/Starmer cant fight an election on genuine policies that they can defend and justify under scrutiny from the electorate then they don't deserve power. There will never be a time when most people are as open as...

I have done in the past and might again if we get PR. Otherwise, what’s the point?

You may be right but for me the parallel to the current state is a couple of years before Blair was elected. Labour way ahead in the polls and the Tories in a total mess. Blair didn’t take anything for granted and bit by bit presented a new image and set of policies that crescendoed by the time...

Wow! I have a few Scottish friends who will be ecstatic!

Too early to publish a manifesto but a total vacuum of alternatives to the current mess being put forward now. The inference is that Starmer has no more idea of what to do than the gov whilst there is a massive opportunity to show that labour have a different way forward (if of course they...

Logic and poll evidence agrees with you but it think the real danger is voter apathy and too few people voting for change. To vote for change there has to be a party that is offering it (and is half electable). There is time of course, but there is little discernable difference between Tory and...

But only dumb and stupid in your opinion surely? This long standing thread has become an echo chamber for the anti tories. I totally get the logic of that but one reason why labour have been out of power for so long is they have also lived in an echo chamber refusing to believe that anyone could...

No, we need a debate about nurses pay and conditions. It was idiotic of some union publicity person to say that nurses are driven to food banks. With an average wage of £35000 this was an own goal and one the daily mail made hay with. The cooking thing is actually a very important point...

I’m hoping that there are enough people who arent as arrogant, dumb and blind to alternative opinions as you, so that we can have wide ranging debate rather than the polarisation that is paralysing our politics. Edit: sorry that was a bit personal. I just don’t think it’s right to call people...

Possibly an own goal by the Libs? Plenty of people across the UK will agree with his at least one of his statements or at least not be offended by them. Take the death penalty one, I'm against capital punishment but many are not and what he says is obviously correct. One problem I think we have...

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Apologies if I've misunderstood you, but I don't think that's correct. The 90 day are rolling, so once an earlier visit drops off you can go again without waiting 90 days