Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
Yes for a deal that would work for the Ukraine and the US however Trump isn’t interested in that, He wants it all but with the way Europe is gearing up he could end up with very little.
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
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Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
The US arms manufacturers are very powerful and won’t be happy that their cash cow has been stopped. I suspect they’ll have a quiet word….I don't know mate..... its basically stopping deliveries of aid that already has been funded and was/is being manufactured.
I think I read it was 3.5B of ordered stuff (that will now be blocked) plus another 1.4B extra available funding, as yet unallocated to order more stuff. Just under 5B total.
I'd guess I'd there was any legal mechanism to challenge its stopping it would be made by a democrat
- Nov 15, 2006
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Has Trump condemned the Russian invasion and random killing of civilians even once? Not that I’ve seen and that is f***ing scary to me.
Sirnormangall
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- Sep 21, 2017
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…..but the sort of protest such as the 6th Jan 01 riot and attack on the Capitol building is fine
highflyer
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- Jan 21, 2016
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Without pretending to be an expert my view is that the one's laughing hardest at all this are not the Russians (who will be pretty happy of course) but the Chinese. They will be the winners in the long term. And they tend to be the only ones thinking and planning long term. They have been working to build soft power across the globe and secure access to resources for decades. The various debacles now playing out will be strengthening their hold and absolutely stinks of desperation from Trump and Co, to secure access to whatever's left, whilst happily burning through any soft power they may previously have held (by acting like untrustworthy dicks in public and withdrawing aid at a rate guaranteed to be catastrophic) just to keep the gurning redneck maga masses happy. In geoplitical terms it's a strategic dumpster fire though I have no doubt they are still thinking of themselves as geniuses. The utter twats.
- Nov 11, 2009
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To the first part, on removing themselves from Aukus, may make good sense as US are compromised and you dont want your secrets or intelligence going to China via Russia or any other method.
As for minerals, China doesnt need them, and Id be very careful about getting in bed in shape or form with China who are also a very nefarious and dishonest dictatorship.
Europe will buy their minerals.
highflyer
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- Jan 21, 2016
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Bit late. China is already Australia's largest two way trading partner and the 5th largest foreign direct investor. And that relationship is only heading in one direction.
ROSM
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Falklands?
I meant commodities really: Oz already exports iron ore, gold, gas, copper, coal to China, and I believe there are joint business ventures in the pipeline.
Nefarious, yes, but a big trading partner of Oz already.
SeagullinExile
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.....with a high powered sniper rifle in Dallas probably
But they've already heard Trump say he wants to reduce the defense budget by 50%... I didn't read any serious pushback
- Jan 25, 2025
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The same applies to Five Eyes intelligence sharing, one of the eyes has picked up a nasty infection.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
They are all on the stock exchange and results affect the share price which affects dividends. They’ll not be happy. The other thing that will piss them off is that Europe is a big customer of theirs But with the anti US feelings and the desire for Europe to go it alone I can see much of the military investment being target within Europe.But they've already heard Trump say he wants to reduce the defense budget by 50%... I didn't read any serious pushback
Their bottom line is going to take a kicking….
Masterplan by Trump.
Stops American military aid going to Ukraine to place more pressure on Ukraine to sign the Rare Earth Mineral agreement, but overlooks the increased chance of Russia rolling forward and occupying the whole of Ukraine, given that their ability to fight back is reduced. Thereby Russia get all the minerals and America loses out completely.
This of course could have been the plan all along from Comrade Trump.
Stops American military aid going to Ukraine to place more pressure on Ukraine to sign the Rare Earth Mineral agreement, but overlooks the increased chance of Russia rolling forward and occupying the whole of Ukraine, given that their ability to fight back is reduced. Thereby Russia get all the minerals and America loses out completely.
This of course could have been the plan all along from Comrade Trump.
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They’ll all be insider trading, Shirley?
What fights has Western Europe lost?
beorhthelm
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because it's not come yet and they dont believe it will. a 50% defence cut would probably lead to immediate recession, 7-10% spending disappears.But they've already heard Trump say he wants to reduce the defense budget by 50%... I didn't read any serious pushback
I sure hope so. Better not buy any US weapons where there's an alternative. Need those alternative air defense missiles too,- I have no idea if there are alternative third party missiles for Patriots for e.g.