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[Albion] Fab OUT



Krafty

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Apr 19, 2023
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Why is pathetic? He’s tactically naive, the starting line ups are making no sense, I think he’s out of depth , conceding 2 goals in batches
I’m not saying that he is immune to criticism. He isn’t. But the fact that fans are already calling for Fabian to go seems ridiculous. We are in the top half of the league with 24 points from 16 games. Of course we can do better and Fabian is responsible for some of our mistakes but all teams go through these bad spells - see Man City for example. We need to keep the faith and stick behind the team, the players need our support.
 






HangletonGull

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Apr 10, 2023
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I’m not saying that he is immune to criticism. He isn’t. But the fact that fans are already calling for Fabian to go seems ridiculous. We are in the top half of the league with 24 points from 16 games. Of course we can do better and Fabian is responsible for some of our mistakes but all teams go through these bad spells - see Man City for example. We need to keep the faith and stick behind the team, the players need our support.
But you can see it’s not working , would rather part ways early than prolong it wait till arsenal vist in a few weeks
 










Eeyore

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But you can see it’s not working , would rather part ways early than prolong it wait till arsenal vist in a few weeks
There would be two problems there. Firstly, we would be a laughing stock. Not even Manchester United and Chelsea sack their managers as early as that, and in such a competitive position as ours. Secondly, who would he be replaced by mid-season ? Albion operate in the middle upper band of management appointments and would have to drop lower on a speculative option.

He's here for the season at least. Rightly so. We talk about how strong the squad are, but the morning light reality is that other clubs also seem to have equally strong sides. It's the reality of the league.

Seems that the team are in a bad period of results and, as expected, he's not getting the slack others did. It was always expected to be an issue.
 
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Flounce

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Nah.

We were spoilt under RDZ. He took us to heights that we can not maintain. He knew that, it’s why he left.

Fans are deluded if they think we’re going to be challenging for Europe every season while continuing to sell our best players.
Who did we sell this season other than Gilmour whilst splashing 200 million?
 






amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
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Far to early to make a jdgement but has to take a lot of blame for recent performances. Starting with feeling obligating to bring Dunk in mid game against Southampton and playing 3 at back. Then repeating system at Fulham and not having balls to leave Dunk out which meant Pervis playing at LWB. 2-0 up at Leicester with 10 mins to go. Unlike any other side only way they would score would be involvement of Vardy. Obvious thing would have been to man mark him for 10mins but no organisation just left him free twice. As for today have never seen before a first half like that against Palace. They could have scored more Not because they were good but because our defence was crap
 


Mike Small

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I don't think the players particularly respect him. He doesn't seem to demand it.

We are not good in ANY aspect of the game right now. Defensively, midfield, attacking, finishing, set plays, managing the game. We are good at conceding two goals quickly though (did it twice today as well).

This has Sami Hyypia vibes at the moment. He looks like a child and needs to get angry with his players or drop some of them. Recalling Dunk has been catastrophic. What will he do for West Ham? Judging by the pathetic comments after the game it will be same old, same old.

Apart from Saints, Wolves, Leicester and West Ham I'd say EVERY other club has a better manager than us. Imagine what Glasner could do with all this talent. Feels horrible to write that.
 




Guinness Boy

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There’s help coming in the new year. We need it.

It’s a young team with a young coach, lots of inexperience and the wrong players currently injured.

I loved peak RDZ but he did turn up with half of Italy to help. We’ve basically said to FH ‘off you go’. He’s got a lot to learn about England and the Premier League but he can only do that on the job.
 


Uncle Spielberg

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I'm not "Fab out" by any means. But I am "mindless, naive optimism about Fab has taken a bit of a ding lately".

Hoping a couple wins will buff it out.

As for the people saying Tony should have backed RDZ, remember that would mean we'd be playing with Mason Greenwood in the squad right now...
There is no way Bloom or Barber would have had Greenwood at the club
 


Lifelong Supporter

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FH has to be given more than 15 games to get things right but equally he has to learn very, very quickly imho.
Every player we have bought in this summer were stand out players for their previous clubs. Mitoma, Ferguson, Enciso have not become bad players in the last few months.
Who has stepped up this season… maybe Ayari and Hinsh. Baleba was already improving.
I genuinely believe we have a top 6 squad and so for me there can only be 1 conclusion and that is that we aren’t playing to our strengths. Only FH controls this.
Give him time, yes, support him, for sure but let’s not think for one second that we always get these appointments right.
Top 6 squad, no way!!! Top six defenders? Which of them would start for a top 6 side?
 




One Teddy Maybank

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There’s help coming in the new year. We need it.

It’s a young team with a young coach, lots of inexperience and the wrong players currently injured.

I loved peak RDZ but he did turn up with half of Italy to help. We’ve basically said to FH ‘off you go’. He’s got a lot to learn about England and the Premier League but he can only do that on the job.
Good observation, the new German chap coming over will hopefully help.
 


American Seagle

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Anyone can be a good manager when things are going well. The true test is how they cope when form drops, players get injured etc etc. Look at Pep for example, he is losing it badly.

This will be the test for Hurzeler. We will see if he passes. Only time will tell, to sack him before he has the chance is not good. Let's find out. All I can say is you don't get to where he is at his age without having something, let's hope he does actually learn and adapt fast and gets that across to the players.
 


amexer

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I don't think the players particularly respect him. He doesn't seem to demand it.

We are not good in ANY aspect of the game right now. Defensively, midfield, attacking, finishing, set plays, managing the game. We are good at conceding two goals quickly though (did it twice today as well).

This has Sami Hyypia vibes at the moment. He looks like a child and needs to get angry with his players or drop some of them. Recalling Dunk has been catastrophic. What will he do for West Ham? Judging by the pathetic comments after the game it will be same old, same old.

Apart from Saints, Wolves, Leicester and West Ham I'd say EVERY other club has a better manager than us. Imagine what Glasner could do with all this talent. Feels horrible to write that.
As I said before didnt help my mood 2-0 down to see mananager sitting down looking relaxwd. Old ground I know but DeZerbi would have been doing his nut on side and players would not look forward to seeing him at half time.
Hopefully new coach they are bringing in will improve things
 


As I said before didnt help my mood 2-0 down to see mananager sitting down looking relaxwd. Old ground I know but DeZerbi would have been doing his nut on side and players would not look forward to seeing him at half time.
Hopefully new coach they are bringing in will improve things
That's where we(or some of us) think Fab is a bit meh? There seems little or no emotion on touchline compared to Roberto. He would be going ballistic and rightly so. Makes me wonder a little how much respect Fab has from the senior players.
 




Han Solo

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That's where we(or some of us) think Fab is a bit meh? There seems little or no emotion on touchline compared to Roberto. He would be going ballistic and rightly so. Makes me wonder a little how much respect Fab has from the senior players.
Screaming like a kid who's lost his ice cream doesn't give respect, nor does it give points given the relegation form we had from October onwards last season.
 


A mex eyecan

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Screaming like a kid who's lost his ice cream doesn't give respect, nor does it give points given the relegation form we had from October onwards last season.
no, fair point, but a manager doesn’t have to scream like a kid, but a managers job is there to motivate, cajole, encourage and engage. With a young team he needs to guide and educate. Being conspicuous by his absence and sitting on his arse isn’t going to do any of those.
 


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