[Misc] Will we have another lockdown ?

[Wardy's twin]

If you want to compare seat-belt laws with injecting stuff into someone’s body, then anything else you say is irrelevant. Words fail me.

Its not just words that fail you....

You know full well that the seat belt example was part of an argument that says we should comply to laws which are generally seen to improve society and that individuals need to compromise. In this case seatbelts protected the individual, reduced serious hospitalisation AND stopped ambulance people having to pick up the bits. Yet at the time people still felt it was their choice, same with drink driving. Its about compliance , and the best example of this with vaccination was societies compliance with BCG injections which helped eliminate TB as a major killer.

 

[Richy_Seagull]

No they wernt and dangerous propaganda which some media peddled

The nhs was never over whelmed

The nightingales barely got used at all

Another lockdown - don’t think so as vaccines working . Possible knee jerk reactions to cases but hopefully sense will prevail looking at hospitals and deaths



*** as a side note - hospitals in winter are normally full . Look beyond the propaganda !

lol ok I’ll go with your propaganda bullshit rather than listen to you know, the actual heroes working in these hospitals dealing with this shit.

Also the reason nightingale was empty is because we’ve got a bunch of ***** in charge who never realised we didn’t have the staff to cover those new hospitals.

 

[Change at Barnham]

Covid passports needed for nightclubs by the end of September.
35% of under 30's apparently haven't even had one jab.

It will be interesting if a few more under 30's now decide to get vaccinated.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Vaccine passport needed to get into a nightclub from the end of September. Over 3m 18 to 30 year olds have not been vaccinated.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Not a country in Europe that will admit entry to us inhabitants of Plague Island by the end of the Summer. We'll be pole position on EVERYBODY's Red List

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

No they wernt and dangerous propaganda which some media peddled

The nhs was never over whelmed

The nightingales barely got used at all

Another lockdown - don’t think so as vaccines working . Possible knee jerk reactions to cases but hopefully sense will prevail looking at hospitals and deaths



*** as a side note - hospitals in winter are normally full . Look beyond the propaganda !

I’m afraid you are wrong. When I was admitted to intensive care with a stroke on the 2nd April last year I was tested twice for Covid and put in the non Covid ward. Staff were suddenly having to serve double the number of wards and many were doing 4 days on/2 days off and not going home in order to contain the spread. The consultant looking after me was not a stroke specialist and wanted to let me die. It was chaos, although I was in a coma so knew nothing about it. I was saved by a stroke specialist coming on shift. NHS staff were completely overwhelmed, many couldn’t see their families. For you to write it all off as propaganda is quite frankly ignorant. One of the awful things about the past 18 months is the emergence of all the deniers and conspiracy theorists, posturing whilst NHS staff and victims of Covid and other conditions made the sacrifices. Enjoy Freedom Day.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Vaccine passport needed to get into a nightclub from the end of September. Over 3m 18 to 30 year olds have not been vaccinated.

Am I being a bit daft…..why the wait until the end of September? If there is an issue which needs addressing in September why doesn’t it need addressing now?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Am I being a bit daft…..why the wait until the end of September? If there is an issue which needs addressing in September why doesn’t it need addressing now?

You have to give people the chance to be offered two.

Maybe they could have done it for over x age and worked down.

 

[larus]

Its not just words that fail you....

You know full well that the seat belt example was part of an argument that says we should comply to laws which are generally seen to improve society and that individuals need to compromise. In this case seatbelts protected the individual, reduced serious hospitalisation AND stopped ambulance people having to pick up the bits. Yet at the time people still felt it was their choice, same with drink driving. Its about compliance , and the best example of this with vaccination was societies compliance with BCG injections which helped eliminate TB as a major killer.

Seems you don't get it. Wearing a seat-belt is not injecting something into my body and possible having side effects. This thinking thing really isn't for you is it?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

No they wernt and dangerous propaganda which some media peddled

The nhs was never over whelmed

The nightingales barely got used at all

Another lockdown - don’t think so as vaccines working . Possible knee jerk reactions to cases but hopefully sense will prevail looking at hospitals and deaths



*** as a side note - hospitals in winter are normally full . Look beyond the propaganda !

I agree about the the Nightingales (but that was a close call - any use of them meant the NHS wasn't coping) and the lack of need for another full lockdown (albeit there is a chance we will have one - because Boris is an idiot). But the rest of what you wrote is nonsense. Dangerous propaganda? Knee jerk reaction? You only need 'no smoke without fire' and 'not really British' and you'll have a full line in today's Daily Mail bingo I work in a big London teaching hospital and know people treating Covid and others researching on it. Meanwhile you base your inferences on what exactly? As for 'hospitals in winter are normally full'....no, no they aren't. Or did you mean 'used to be normally full, before we left the EU when Boris got things done'?

 

[Gazwag]

Anti lockdown protestors, protesting… the end of the lockdown?

No I don’t get it either. Anyone know what this is about?

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Middle aged men who have learnt how to take a video on their phone pretend to be hard in a big group with the aim of hurting policemen. If only you could choose who caught long covid.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Am I being a bit daft…..why the wait until the end of September? If there is an issue which needs addressing in September why doesn’t it need addressing now?

The issue is the 3m over 18's not vaccinated. If they want to go clubbing they have 10 weeks ish to get double jabbed.

 

[Stuart Munday]

Vaccine passport needed to get into a nightclub from the end of September. Over 3m 18 to 30 year olds have not been vaccinated.

Every chance that will include sporting events as well.

 

[Gazwag]

No they wernt and dangerous propaganda which some media peddled

The nhs was never over whelmed

The nightingales barely got used at all

Another lockdown - don’t think so as vaccines working . Possible knee jerk reactions to cases but hopefully sense will prevail looking at hospitals and deaths



*** as a side note - hospitals in winter are normally full . Look beyond the propaganda !

Must admit I'm trying not to laugh at this post.

Unlike your propaganda, I know for a fact my local hospital was very very very close to breaking point and 100's, maybe 1,000's of routine operations cancelled as wards were used for covid patients.

Do you know why the Nightingales were not use - because the stupid government's failure to think about who would staff them.

 

[Audax]

What the Nightingales might have been useful for is all those elderly who were discharged into care homes. Except since Brexit we also don't have enough care staff to do even that.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

You have to give people the chance to be offered two.

Maybe they could have done it for over x age and worked down.

Haven’t they had like 6 months of “chance”? Just seems odd that a demographic which has been identified as super-spreaders will be given just over 2 months to super-spread before they need to prove they’re jabbed.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Haven’t they had like 6 months of “chance”? Just seems odd that a demographic which has been identified as super-spreaders will be given just over 2 months to super-spread before they need to prove they’re jabbed.

18-35 has only been open for 4/5 weeks

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I’m afraid you are wrong. When I was admitted to intensive care with a stroke on the 2nd April last year I was tested twice for Covid and put in the non Covid ward. Staff were suddenly having to serve double the number of wards and many were doing 4 days on/2 days off and not going home in order to contain the spread. The consultant looking after me was not a stroke specialist and wanted to let me die. It was chaos, although I was in a coma so knew nothing about it. I was saved by a stroke specialist coming on shift. NHS staff were completely overwhelmed, many couldn’t see their families. For you to write it all off as propaganda is quite frankly ignorant. One of the awful things about the past 18 months is the emergence of all the deniers and conspiracy theorists, posturing whilst NHS staff and victims of Covid and other conditions made the sacrifices. Enjoy Freedom Day.

I hadn't seen your post before I wrote my reply. I admire your restraint. The reson it took a little while for me to post was the need to edit to remove the abuse in the first draft. And second draft. A regular NSC poster of whom I'm fond PMd me yesterday to say he can take no more of NSC while cretins are posting cheerful nonsense about Covid, half-arsed conspiracy nonsense and the like.

I'm glad you got through all that and have retained your humanity and sanity. I'm not sure that I would share your composure, in your boots.

 

[METALMICKY]

Lockdown 3 coming to you in mid September.

They love trotting out ' being led by the science ' and the data. However, you'd be a fool not to believe that the only data revealed will be that which suits the agenda or policy being pushed! I should add that I am not anti vaccine but clearly it doesn't now look like the easy solution.

Today's best nonsense was around the stat that 60% of hospital admissions have been double jabbed. That was glazed over on the simple basis that a higher proportion of the population have been double jabbed. Whilst that may be true does it not really show that the effectiveness of the vaccines have been over estimated?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

18-35 has only been open for 4/5 weeks

As I said, in Germany the lower end of this age range was identified as having a high rate of contact and transmission and actions were taken to target them. Baffling that they’d be left to last to be offered a jab in the UK and spread the virus.