Have I got this right, you are trying to claim that someone aimed to diffuse a situation with a black man by calling him a negro?
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Have I got this right, you are trying to claim that someone aimed to diffuse a situation with a black man by calling him a negro?
Tooting Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Very valuable and skilful player/asset not only accused but found guilty of a racial slur on opponent, Liverpool back him to the hilt. A fan accused of racially abusing player, and Liverpool would ban him for life if found guilty. Some inconsistency, mixed messages on the racism issue from Anfield...
Heard Stewart Downing got arrested last night for assault. Oh dear.
chimneys
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Christ, dont tell Gus he's got a Uruguayan great grandmother!
Southern Scouse
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Not a good few weeks on the Red three quarters of Merseyside recently.
That fact that Downing seems to have had handbags with an ex girlfriend does not surprise me as any male over the age of 12 would give him a pasting.
From what I understand, from a journo on the Echo it appears that three lads were questioned in Stanly Park after the game having been singled out but it appears they said "manc" bastard which is fine with us. If however, anyone is accused justly, of being racist I would sugest they move out of the city for a while because scouse pride is very low at the moment and feelings are running high. Whatever many people think of Liverpool, we love our city dearly and care passionately about its reputation.
Of course it now seems Suarez is a target for any team outside of England so I hope we can keep hold of him, because he is not a racist, just perhaps ignorant of our culture and he would be a sad loss to the PL.
Adde to that LFc draw the manc bastards in the FA cup......must be some justice after all!
That fact that Downing seems to have had handbags with an ex girlfriend does not surprise me as any male over the age of 12 would give him a pasting.
From what I understand, from a journo on the Echo it appears that three lads were questioned in Stanly Park after the game having been singled out but it appears they said "manc" bastard which is fine with us. If however, anyone is accused justly, of being racist I would sugest they move out of the city for a while because scouse pride is very low at the moment and feelings are running high. Whatever many people think of Liverpool, we love our city dearly and care passionately about its reputation.
Of course it now seems Suarez is a target for any team outside of England so I hope we can keep hold of him, because he is not a racist, just perhaps ignorant of our culture and he would be a sad loss to the PL.
Adde to that LFc draw the manc bastards in the FA cup......must be some justice after all!
tgretton87
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- Jul 30, 2011
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In Uruguay its not deemed racist. Ok I know that im gonna get the "well were in England" Blah Blah, but I went to coach football in America for a year and here are some of the things they say on a day to day basis.
Shag (slang): means to "get" the amount of times I heard lads saying there gonna "shag" the ball was mad.
Wanker, they generally thought that we Brits called eachother this when we greeted eachother.
I know this may sound crazy but cultural differences do exist and Gus was right to say so. Suarez now will have learnt his lesson so I assume will not happen again but if it does then he should be banned for a season. I also looked into what "your sisters pussy" meant and that is one of the most derogatory things you could say to someone with a Hispanic background, yet Evra admits to saying that and gets away scott free.
Im not having a pop at you I generally think people need to have a more reserved judgement when there is not much evidence to go on Liverpool had every right to defend there player. John Terry is guilty as guilty can be we have all seen the evidence yet Chelsea back him too CRAZY.
Norman Baker suck my lozenge
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They employed experts for the Suarez case who said "negro" CAN be used in an affectionate way in Uruguay, but that it can also be used in a pejorative sense. If you look at t the exchange in question, it's quite clearly neither friendly nor affectionate, therefore it was concluded, not unreasonably, that Suarez was being abusive, in a racially aggravated manner.
Dick Knights Mumm
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Can oilbag be used in an affectionate way I wonder ?
The steward who heard "manc bastard" should be booted out straight away.
The steward who heard "manc bastard" should be booted out straight away.
And YOU asked ME if I'd read the report.
Yes, I am fully aware that in some circumstances negro is an affectionate term and not deemed racist in some countries. I'm certain the whole nation now knows this as its been done to death in the media. But Suarez was embroiled in an arguemrnt, used the term 10 times and said he didn't talk to negros. I struggle to see how this was affectionate. In some respects this is irrelevant as we do not bring people's skin colour into arguements in this country. Suarez has lived her long enough to know this.
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sorry, but as a gay black muslim, i have experienced nothing but hate from liverpool fans
BensGrandad
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I may be wrong and will be called a racist but I don think that this incident with the Oldham player is helping the racial problems. Would the people being shouted achieve more by just ignoring it as our fans do to the homophobic chants generally. I think that this racist thing is being taken too far and is more damaging than healing the tension now.
BadFish
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http://newsframes.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/media-on-racism-churnalism/
I have not read the whole of this thread but here is an interesting article.
Maybe the reason Kenny and the club have take their particular stance is that they believe Suarez and wish to stand by their player. Commendable I say.
I have not read the whole of this thread but here is an interesting article.
Maybe the reason Kenny and the club have take their particular stance is that they believe Suarez and wish to stand by their player. Commendable I say.
beardy gull
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What? Seriously, what?
I think you'll find it's easy for us to ignore the homophobic chants because, believe it or not, most of us aren't actually gay.
You think the way forward is for victims of racial abuse to ignore it? That'll help 'heal the tension?'
Are you serious?
BadFish
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Apart from the European cup in 2005 and the final the year later.
Pavilionaire
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Loving the irony of the FA Cup draw yesterday with Liverpool vs Man Utd and QPR vs Chelsea. What next - Fyffes to cash in by setting up a banana kiosk outside the Klanfield gates?
And what WERE the Liverpool players thinking with those Suarez T-shirts? You wonder how former Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson would have dealt with this situation, him being one of the most dignified men in football.
I agree with Tooting - some terrible mixed messages coming out of Liverpool.
And what WERE the Liverpool players thinking with those Suarez T-shirts? You wonder how former Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson would have dealt with this situation, him being one of the most dignified men in football.
I agree with Tooting - some terrible mixed messages coming out of Liverpool.
bhaexpress
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Not unlike 'Seagulls' being heard as 'Seig Heil' (by a tabloid journalist naturally) isn't it ?
Common as Mook
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- Jul 26, 2004
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That is a VERY good article.
Manx Shearwater
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Which you still haven't answered I notice.
Its pretty apparent from what you post that you haven't.
arfer guinness
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I agree with B.G's comments. You cannot ignore racist abuse any more than you can ignore any abuse. But we are in danger of inciting more racism by inflicting heavier punishment if the word black preceeds any assault. I'm in no way defending the scum convicted in the Stephen Lawrence case, but how do other murder victims families feel to see a dedicated police unit investigating a crime committed 19 years ago.