[Football] Well said, Tyrone Mings

[KeegansHairPiece]

What came first?

Ms Patel taking most of the flak?

Or

Ms Patel constantly putting herself in a position for taking flak?



One of life's unanswerable questions.




...Oh no hang on a minute it's pretty f**king simple.

Not to a simpleton.

 

[Deadly Danson]

Okay one last reply post, just for the mods that love to wrongly ban me.

I quoted the money because the left always sees it as a privilege and the person doesn't deserve it and yet footballers get off lightly and are worshipped. Most on here would say Priti Patel is privileged, I am stating she is NOT in the same league as Mr Mings.

You, of course, are talking total worth, I guarantee Mings has mountains more cash than Patel.

Who has the hardest job? Who has to take the most flak, who are trying to make the country better, it the politician every time, whether you agree or not the heart is in the right place and their main motivation is NOT money.


I would say the same about any sportsman with a high profile and mountain of cash challenging a politician over Twitter, yes and that does include an Albion player having a bop at Starmer.

Politicians have a tough job and it has never been harder, they don't need gobshites like Mings stirring the nation up, watch it run for days now.

What a **** Mings is.

Thankfully we don't seem to have any gobshite players at BHA, or they have the sense to button it.

Repulsive, rancid bullshit.

 

[Stat Brother]

F**k me that's Tyrone Mings kind of money:-

[tweet]1414848820488384515[/tweet]

 

[Baker lite]

It is all getting out of hand and very divisive.
https://twitter.com/georgiastellab/status/1414491319012057089?s=21 we’ve even had posters on this forum calling the Home Secretary “ A massive Uncle Tom” truly abhorrent.
There is one race people...the human race.
Let us all start living our best,kindest lives.
I’m out of here.


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[hans kraay fan club]

I do take your point and I feel freedom of speech is very important and should only be censored if it is hateful etc . Much of the time the liberal elite want to censor views that aren’t hateful they just differ from their own . I just feel that being respectful to a senior govt minister is something that should be encouraged even if you don’t agree with her because she represents our govt .

Absolute garbage. 'Respect' is earned, through actions, not through titles.

 

[Guinness Boy]

It is all getting out of hand and very divisive.
https://twitter.com/georgiastellab/status/1414491319012057089?s=21 we’ve even had posters on this forum calling the Home Secretary “ A massive Uncle Tom” truly abhorrent.
There is one race people...the human race.
Let us all start living our best,kindest lives.
I’m out of here.


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That's because she's an Uncle Tom and also, she's massive! Geddit? *honks horn*

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Oh dear, a GBNews presenter Guto Harri, now says he gets it, after reading all the abuse since Sunday, and went down on one knee on the air. Hundreds of disgusted viewers have vowed never to watch it again, as it’s too ‘woke’.



https://metro.co.uk/2021/07/13/gb-n...ee-after-underestimating-racism-14921528/amp/

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Well, I don't have the privilege of knowing all her income, so how can I claim that, the same for Mings he probably has his fingers in other pies..

You don't actually know Mings' salary, either.

And I'll concede that there is little way of knowing what Patel's 'other' sources of income amount to, given that we are reliant on her to make them public.

By way of example, when her long-time friend Samir Jassal's company was awarded a £103million government emergency PPE contract without any tender process, after her personal lobbying of Michael Gove on their behalf, she recorded nothing - so we'll all happily conclude that she did so purely for the greater good.

 

[Razzoo]

That's because she's an Uncle Tom and also, she's massive! Geddit? *honks horn*

So you, a white man, (I am guessing, so apologies if I am off the mark). Get to decide how Patel should think and what her politics should be?
How very racist.
It's the same on the worst Tory Poll. Black Asian WTF!?
The message is clear "know your place and think how we expect you to think".

 

[johanngull]

It's not just Baker lite, unfortunately. The Government set up a royal commission to investigate racial disparities in the UK. When they reported (earlier this year), one of their most prominent findings was the need to focus on the extent to which "individuals and their communities could help themselves through their own agency, rather than wait for invisible external forces to assemble to do the job". In other words, the BAME community should stop whinging about racism, and solve their problems themselves...racial inequality is, after all, the fault of the oppressed, not the oppressor (according to this Government).

I am confident the independent Commission,nearly all of who are from the BAME community will have raised eyebrows at your slightly different slant on what they actually wrote
"As our investigations proceeded, we increasingly felt that an unexplored approach to closing disparity gaps was to examine the extent individuals and their communities could help themselves through their own agency, rather than wait for invisible external forces to assemble to do the job".
and would have definite raised eyebrows at your "in other words" interpretation of what was written.

 

[Happy Exile]

I do take your point and I feel freedom of speech is very important and should only be censored if it is hateful etc . Much of the time the liberal elite want to censor views that aren’t hateful they just differ from their own . I just feel that being respectful to a senior govt minister is something that should be encouraged even if you don’t agree with her because she represents our govt .

Mings hasn't been disrespectful. It's not disrespectful to call someone out or disagree with them regardless of their position. If anything it's a duty and an act of immense patriotism to point out government hypocrisy that is detrimental to the country. Patel ignored his reasons for going down on one knee, called it gesture politics and said people can make a choice whether to boo, and didn't condemn it, didn't even say whether she would herself or not. Why should she be able to comment on him and his motivations without him being able to respond? And how is anything he said inaccurate or disrespectful? It's a model of restraint and tact.

And "liberal elite" censoring views...maybe on social media from a few people without much profile but by far the most pervasive censoring taking place in the media and public sphere and social media at the moment is silencing and belittling anyone with a socially progressive view - or god forbid, a taste for Greggs vegan sausage rolls, or empathy with mental health - by calling them "woke". It's become the meaningless catch-all term for dismissing anyone and everyone who wants to see a more inclusive and compassionate country. It can be filed alongside "Remoaner" and "Snowflake" and other similar terms as simple phrases to avoid entering debate about uncomfortable realities - again, not the "liberal elite" doing that but they appear far more frequently in the press and mainstream conversation, than, say "gammon" (which is no better).

 

[Guinness Boy]

So you, a white man, (I am guessing, so apologies if I am off the mark). Get to decide how Patel should think and what her politics should be?
How very racist.
It's the same on the worst Tory Poll. Black Asian WTF!?
The message is clear "know your place and think how we expect you to think".

No the message is "why are you working for someone who calls Muslims pillarboxes and black Africans 'picaninnies with watermelon smiles'"? Also "why do you only support the England players, particularly the BAME ones, when it suits you."

But thanks for asking, my step dad is black and I have lots of black family. Perhaps those dwelling on money should consider the incident when we went to France with them for New Year a few years ago. He was driving a Saab at the time and we were literally the only car pulled over for a customs' check at the Channel Tunnel. I guess, as he had a nice car, he probably should have just accepted it and counted his money?

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I do take your point and I feel freedom of speech is very important and should only be censored if it is hateful etc . Much of the time the liberal elite want to censor views that aren’t hateful they just differ from their own . I just feel that being respectful to a senior govt minister is something that should be encouraged even if you don’t agree with her because she represents our govt .

Do you think pointing out her hypocrisy is hateful, then?

Mings' point wasn't about a difference of opinion, FFS. He was pointing out that she was criticising people's actions when she previously refused to criticise their actions that clearly led to the more serious – and more openly racist – actions.

Nothing disrespectful in that. She started the "gesture politics" game, so she had the choice to keep quiet or respond in a more measured way, but she contradicted herself completely.

 

[rogersix]

And here in lies the problem we have with online racism, the social media platforms are simply not doing enough. When was the last time you heard racism in the stands( with the exception of the knuckle dragging idiots at Burnley) social media gives everyone a megaphone nowadays,the anonymity gives people the courage to spew vile abuse , when they would not dream of say these things to someone’s face, it needs to stop.
As for the knee taking..do I agree with it? No,The kick out and show racism the red card campaign,in my opinion,were great,also the hope united campaign seems to be really getting the message across. Do I agree with booing the knee? Absolutely not,do I agree with booing national anthems? Absolutely not, it’s the main reason stopped following England,home and away ( yes I am one of the few that witnessed us going 1-0 down to San Marino)
We live in a free, liberal society,like it or not people have the right to agree or disagree, that is where we stand. Social media needs to do more....in my opinion.


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do you think these two campaigns are great because they are clearly not working?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

You don't actually know Mings' salary, either.

And I'll concede that there is little way of knowing what Patel's 'other' sources of income amount to, given that we are reliant on her to make them public.

By way of example, when her long-time friend Samir Jassal's company was awarded a £103million government emergency PPE contract without any tender process, after her personal lobbying of Michael Gove on their behalf, she recorded nothing - so we'll all happily conclude that she did so purely for the greater good.

Not to mention £70K for her eyebrows!

 

[rogersix]

No no, not all, it is my belief that the events in America,with the Racist murder of George Floyd and the whole BLM movement and consequential riots and criminal damage that has ensued in the UK has divided the nation.


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it's the racists dividing a multi-cultural nation, clearly

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

Baroness Warsi has a go at Patel now. She doesn't even play football.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/yorkshires-baroness-sayeeda-warsi-accuses-priti-patel-and-government-of-dog-whistle-politics-after-england-players-suffer-racist-abuse-3304879

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Baroness Warsi has a go at Patel now. She doesn't even play football.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/yorkshires-baroness-sayeeda-warsi-accuses-priti-patel-and-government-of-dog-whistle-politics-after-england-players-suffer-racist-abuse-3304879

but she may own a dog? (whistle)

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

Edit: Never mind - didn't work.

Well I wasn't happy with that joke, but thank you to the two people who liked it while I was removing it

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

but she may own a dog? (whistle)

I wish my dog would respond to mine!