Ultras - What's the big idea?

[e77]

Let them have their fun, I say.

I do find the constant stream of songs on NSC that never get sung amusing though!

 

[Lush]

in-fighting amongst scarfers, barmies, and ultras.

never thought id see the day were we have been split into different tribes like we have.

success has its downsides.

There are no tribes. Most Albion fans couldn't give a f**k.

 

[Woodchip]

Let them have their fun, I say.

I do find the constant stream of songs on NSC that never get sung amusing though!

A the constant stream of abuse towards the generation we should be aiming to encourage and get more involved rather tiresome.

 

[Keyser Söze]

The group is not all young. We have people from the majority of age ranges. However, there is quite a few "young" people (18-30). We are just a new generation that want to combine everyone together to continue the fantastic atmosphere at the Amex

Sure anyone aged 24-30 who knocks about with a f***ing 'ultra' group full of spotty boys is suspect as f***. If I was the parent of a young NSK member and I knew that I would insist on a background check for sex offences. As a little after school club fair enough, but with male adults involved...deeply disturbing.

 

[e77]

A the constant stream of abuse towards the generation we should be aiming to encourage and get more involved rather tiresome.

I quite agree. At least they are making an effort.

 

[Albion Dan]

This is a good call I can see it now, Just not sure how to go after the initial 'Craig Mackail Smith, lalalalalla' bit repeat hmmm I'll get my cap on

Edit: Infact keeping it simple like(See below) and continuing til wave from CMS is very good.

Craig Mackail Smith,
La la la la la
Craig Mackail Smith
la la la la la-la
Craig Mackail Smith
la la la la

etc

This is the tune as per Marseille for Drogba. Break it down like Craig-Mack-Ail-Smith and there you go.

 

[Captain Sensible]

Keep it up Ultras!!!!!!!!
You contribute to the atmos and if you sing your whoa whoa sing with the words Brighton and Hove Albion instead of North Stand, more would join in.

 

[cunning fergus]

Definition of the word "ultra" - prefix meaning "beyond" (ultraviolet) or "extremely" (ultramodern), from L. ultra- from ultra (adv. and prep.) "beyond, on the further side," from PIE *al- "beyond." In common use from early 19c., it appears to have arisen from French political designations. As its own word, a noun meaning "extremist" of.

In common football parlance the use of the term "ultras" is connected to violent hooligans, typically with extremist political persuasions.

Unless I am mistaken this is the very opposite of what BHA's "ultras" are about; thankfully instead of violence and political extremism we have a group of enthusiastic fans who want to sing and create banners etc.

On this basis its clear that many don't understand why a group of earnest football fans who want to do no more than sing peacefully at football matches would choose to define themselves as "ultras".

The ultimate irony is that these fans would be the very same fans who detest any kind of football violence (especially if it was connected to political extremism) and would happily riducule football firms as chidish and idiotic. Yet evidently they want their own football related gang defined by a moniker that has violent connotations.

You reap what you sow.

 

[tedebear]

Definition of the word "ultra" - prefix meaning "beyond" (ultraviolet) or "extremely" (ultramodern), from L. ultra- from ultra (adv. and prep.) "beyond, on the further side," from PIE *al- "beyond." In common use from early 19c., it appears to have arisen from French political designations. As its own word, a noun meaning "extremist" of.

In common football parlance the use of the term "ultras" is connected to violent hooligans, typically with extremist political persuasions.

Unless I am mistaken this is the very opposite of what BHA's "ultras" are about; thankfully instead of violence and political extremism we have a group of enthusiastic fans who want to sing and create banners etc.

On this basis its clear that many don't understand why a group of earnest football fans who want to do no more than sing peacefully at football matches would choose to define themselves as "ultras".

The ultimate irony is that these fans would be the very same fans who detest any kind of football violence (especially if it was connected to political extremism) and would happily riducule football firms as chidish and idiotic. Yet evidently they want their own football related gang defined by a moniker that has violent connotations.

You reap what you sow.

My thoughts exactly - why would you choose such a name....I sincerely hope any visiting away fans looking for trouble, don't get tempted by the Ultras tag....that could get particularly nasty if misunderstood.....

 

[jimmypbha]

Sure anyone aged 24-30 who knocks about with a f***ing 'ultra' group full of spotty boys is suspect as f***. If I was the parent of a young NSK member and I knew that I would insist on a background check for sex offences. As a little after school club fair enough, but with male adults involved...deeply disturbing.

Mate you have serious problems. Why are you so against us? Please go and support another team because i think you are pissing a lot of people off with this shit now. You clearly do not know proper football supporting.

 

[The Large One]

Sure anyone aged 24-30 who knocks about with a f***ing 'ultra' group full of spotty boys is suspect as f***. If I was the parent of a young NSK member and I knew that I would insist on a background check for sex offences. As a little after school club fair enough, but with male adults involved...deeply disturbing.

I don't think you actually read what you responded to.

 

[Keyser Söze]

Mate you have serious problems. Why are you so against us? Please go and support another team because i think you are pissing a lot of people off with this shit now. You clearly do not know proper football supporting.

Ah I see so because I disagree with you and your posse I should support another club. Interesting. I thought you lot had no political agenda? You can't say 'agree with us or f*** off to another club.' BHA does not belong to NSK or any other fanclub brother.

 

[Marc1901]

Like I have said SO many times. Can we not call it 'ultras'? It's just football supporters singing not stop all game, surely that is good enough without the name tag..

 

[jimmypbha]

Ah I see so because I disagree with you and your posse I should support another club. Interesting. I thought you lot had no political agenda? You can't say 'agree with us or f*** off to another club.' BHA does not belong to NSK or any other fanclub brother.

I don't mind if you do not agree with us. Some people don't. But implying we are some sick pervs, you have to expect some sort of a lash back.

 

[southern_sid]

Definition of the word "ultra" - prefix meaning "beyond" (ultraviolet) or "extremely" (ultramodern), from L. ultra- from ultra (adv. and prep.) "beyond, on the further side," from PIE *al- "beyond." In common use from early 19c., it appears to have arisen from French political designations. As its own word, a noun meaning "extremist" of.

In common football parlance the use of the term "ultras" is connected to violent hooligans, typically with extremist political persuasions.

Unless I am mistaken this is the very opposite of what BHA's "ultras" are about; thankfully instead of violence and political extremism we have a group of enthusiastic fans who want to sing and create banners etc.

On this basis its clear that many don't understand why a group of earnest football fans who want to do no more than sing peacefully at football matches would choose to define themselves as "ultras".

The ultimate irony is that these fans would be the very same fans who detest any kind of football violence (especially if it was connected to political extremism) and would happily riducule football firms as chidish and idiotic. Yet evidently they want their own football related gang defined by a moniker that has violent connotations.

You reap what you sow.

Very good post.

As ive said a few times, some are dressing as lads.

They will come unstuck/ get unwanted attention from other mobs.

Only a matter of time imho.

 

[Champagne charles]

I don't think you actually read what you responded to.

Your always following the NSK about...
always so protective....

 

[Garage_Doors]

Are you a membership group ?
Do you meet up away from matchdays ?
How many of you are there ?

Like others have said, the concept is good, a group that gets the singing and atmosphere going, but do yourself no favours using the "ultra" tag as to the uninitiated it gives the impression you are towards violence or conflict, don't know why, just the word ultra give off this vibe, and also the "K"olloective makes you all appear uneducated.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

I like them. I hope they get stronger and more vocal. Why would you want to slag them off unless of course you're either too hard or too cool? 'Course you are.

 

[Keyser Söze]

I don't mind if you do not agree with us. Some people don't. But implying we are some sick pervs, you have to expect some sort of a lash back.

Hypothetically; a man of 26 years of age hangs around on matchdays with a large group of young boys, many of whom look as though they were bullied at school and are therefore vunerable. He sings songs with them and joins their gang with a quirky mis-spelt name. He likes to encourage drinking and general boisterous behaviour with his new friends. He also joins their website and forum and buys a tee-shirt, but he is disappointed there is no webcam facility

^you would consider the above normal/acceptable?

 

[Gazwag]

and also the "K"olloective makes you all appear uneducated.

Oh the irony

I believe they chose the Kollective instead of the Collective so it can be shorted to NSK and not NSC