[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[B-right-on]

its far more petty than that. Germany wont approve the corporation that owns and operates Nordstream 2 as its Swiss based, then has to go over all the paperwork of the new corporation. it'll be approved of course, just not until summer.

Quite a good summary of the whole NS2 issue and the problems Germany has created for itself by getting rid of the fossil fuel stations.

https://www.dw.com/en/nord-stream-2-who-wins-who-loses/a-60223801

Energy prices are going mad in EU too.

 

[B-right-on]

The last time I went into a care home was just before my mother died in November 2020. I can assure you that the Eastern European staff had left before that.

I don't need your assurances to see your biased views. I work for quite a few care homes and I can assure you, there are plenty still here. I can assure you.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

And they can stay there maning their borders from foriegn invaders


Regards
DF

Not sure that is the best use of their time if they are going to be attacked by those pesky Foriegnians.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Quite a lot still here? Brexit couldn't have been very successful then. I thought a load returned to Poland after the Brexit vote, as their wages suddenly didn't buy as many Euros.

That for sure and also the changes in the self employment tax codes. As to the numbers motivated for each separate reason, who knows.

 

[pb21]

its far more petty than that. Germany wont approve the corporation that owns and operates Nordstream 2 as its Swiss based, then has to go over all the paperwork of the new corporation. it'll be approved of course, just not until summer.

Of course, and sarcasm aside, Germany will fold. The fact that they are a minority partner is irrelevant really. Their agreement is necessary for decision making.

Quite a good summary of the whole NS2 issue and the problems Germany has created for itself by getting rid of the fossil fuel stations.

https://www.dw.com/en/nord-stream-2-who-wins-who-loses/a-60223801

Energy prices are going mad in EU too.

I suspect this is an absolute 'can of worms' issue that won't end next year...

But why isn't NS1 being fully utilised, or is it?

 

[Eric the meek]

Back to the BBC article then.

Hands up all the Brexiteers who have actually read the article, rather than counted the number of turkeys in Tesco.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Back to the BBC article then.

Hands up all the Brexiteers who have actually read the article, rather than counted the number of turkeys in Tesco.

https://youtu.be/XWsvzko1fkY


Regards
DF

 

[PeterOut]

Thanks to the sterling (?) efforts of a few, this thread has now drifted a long way away from it's original topic and degenerated into just another pro / anti Brexit thread.

It is now just a re-hashing of countless off-repeated 'yes it is / no it isn't' accusations.

Time to shift it into one of any number of bearpit-appropriate categories, I fear - we can start again with a new thread once the inevitable new revelations appear post-Christmas?

 

[nicko31]

You do realise they are reporting on figures from the British Chamber of Commerce, right?

The article isn't opinion its just observations and counting, if a country imposes trade sanctions on itself there are consequences

Another set from from Jan 1 when proper import checks come in. Apparently its one man and a portacabin at Holyhead so sounds like we're all ready...

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Thanks to the sterling (?) efforts of a few, this thread has now drifted a long way away from it's original topic and degenerated into just another pro / anti Brexit thread.

It is now just a re-hashing of countless off-repeated 'yes it is / no it isn't' accusations.

Time to shift it into one of any number of bearpit-appropriate categories, I fear - we can start again with a new thread once the inevitable new revelations appear post-Christmas?

There is no need for the Bear Pit if people stick to the new NSC rules.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Thanks to the sterling (?) efforts of a few, this thread has now drifted a long way away from it's original topic and degenerated into just another pro / anti Brexit thread.

It is now just a re-hashing of countless off-repeated 'yes it is / no it isn't' accusations.

Time to shift it into one of any number of bearpit-appropriate categories, I fear - we can start again with a new thread once the inevitable new revelations appear post-Christmas?

Fully agreed. I was just having a read through and yes, the same few have yet again dragged this thread into yet another Brexit thread. Fortunately I have a button that enables me to prevent posters from contributing to specific threads. Hopefully, this thread will get back on track but those posters who insist on turning it into yet another circular Brexit argument will find themselves unable to add further comment.

There is a Brexit thread elsewhere for those who want to knock themselves out over Christmas rehashing the same arguments and convincing nobody on either side of the debate to change their minds.

 

[B-right-on]

Fully agreed. I was just having a read through and yes, the same few have yet again dragged this thread into yet another Brexit thread. Fortunately I have a button that enables me to prevent posters from contributing to specific threads. Hopefully, this thread will get back on track but those posters who insist on turning it into yet another circular Brexit argument will find themselves unable to add further comment.

Well done that man.

I refrain from the Brexit thread and 99% of political threads as they degerate into tit for tat round and round arguments that just get worse and worse.

Even found myself answering a few on here that I know better than to do.

 

[Eric the meek]

There is no need for the Bear Pit if people stick to the new NSC rules.

Agreed. Apologies if I was instrumental in derailing the thread.

Back to 'Tory meltdown incoming' it is.

 

[beorhthelm]

I suspect this is an absolute 'can of worms' issue that won't end next year...

But why isn't NS1 being fully utilised, or is it?

it probably wont resolve next year. the NS1 saga is a geopolitical power play too, as that article from B-right-on notes there is other things going in the mix. it could be resolved by US reopening fracking, bring down prices.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Well the stories seemed to have stopped for now and I can't believe they have run out because all the time Johnson is in charge I'll bet he can generate stories quicker than they can be leaked

Anyone want to guess when it'll all kick off again ?

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Well the stories seemed to have stopped for now and I find it hard to believe that whoever is behind this has run out of stories.

Anyone want to guess when it'll all kick off again ?

As soon as it looks like Boris will impose tighter Covid lockdown restrictions ?

 

[WATFORD zero]

As soon as it looks like Boris will impose tighter Covid lockdown restrictions ?

I can see which extreme you think they are coming from

*edit* Looking at the latest news, hopefully that won't happen. (The restrictions, not the stories)

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Well the stories seemed to have stopped for now and I can't believe they have run out because all the time Johnson is in charge I'll bet he can generate stories quicker than they can be leaked

Anyone want to guess when it'll all kick off again ?

January 4th.

 

[Bodian]

Well the stories seemed to have stopped for now and I can't believe they have run out because all the time Johnson is in charge I'll bet he can generate stories quicker than they can be leaked

Anyone want to guess when it'll all kick off again ?

Probably after Boris has held another party at Chequers.

 

[Eric the meek]

Probably after Boris has held another party at Chequers.

Good point. Someone's got to take the blame for partygate, so expect an expendable to carry the can, and the real culprit to be promoted into high office in a New Year cabinet reshuffle at Chequers. (Drinks are banned on the terrace).

My tip: keep an eye on Gove, currently Secretary of State for revenge.