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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,186
The problem is, I fully believe the PM would survive a vote of no confidence before the upcoming polls.

Only a proper battering would have any chance of bringing him down.

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Our Parliamentary system worked on the assumption that anyone who fell below the acceptable standards of Public Office would do the decent thing and resign. This fails to take in to account that the current Tory Government has been shorn of all those with a conscience or dignity to the extent that the whole rotten cabal are on a Ghost Train that can't stop to let anyone off ....they are virtually all in it together as its only the lies that hold them together....there's no one left who can take Johnson aside and say " Thank you for your service but the chap's want you to go now as we explore a new direction...don't make things messy and ruin your legacy...."
 








Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
54,719
Faversham






Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
54,719
Faversham
Looks like Priti was the brains of the outfit all along.

"What will happen if asylum seekers abscond before being deported to Rwanda?"

"It will go against them in their asylum claim"

:ffsparr:

My brother works in the sector and the bulk of the young male claimants abscond the moment they are processed.

The only solution is an internment camp before deportation to Rwanda.

Alternatively they could be put to work picking the Kentish crops while they wait for a 747. We could get them to work in gangs, and, chain them to one another so they don't escape.
 


TomandJerry

Well-known member
Oct 1, 2013
12,323
Boris Johnson has arrived to address the 1922 committee of Conservative backbenchers, with PA Media reporting he was net by “sustained banging and the odd whoop”.

Delusional. Utterly delusional. Lord help.

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nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,198
Gods country fortnightly






nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,198
Gods country fortnightly
Our Parliamentary system worked on the assumption that anyone who fell below the acceptable standards of Public Office would do the decent thing and resign. This fails to take in to account that the current Tory Government has been shorn of all those with a conscience or dignity to the extent that the whole rotten cabal are on a Ghost Train that can't stop to let anyone off ....they are virtually all in it together as its only the lies that hold them together....there's no one left who can take Johnson aside and say " Thank you for your service but the chap's want you to go now as we explore a new direction...don't make things messy and ruin your legacy...."

Time for a written constitution, the Tories are sliding toward a British version of the Republicans in America.

How long before they deny election results? That may seem far fetched now, but we're closer to this than we think
 


Mike Small

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2008
2,897
Time for a written constitution, the Tories are sliding toward a British version of the Republicans in America.

How long before they deny election results? That may seem far fetched now, but we're closer to this than we think

We are Russia light. Daily Mail readers would believe Russian state news in a heartbeat if they were there.
 




Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,093


Starmer using some powerful language there. These are strong words; it does Britain no good internationally for the Opposition leader to be branding the PM as fundamentally dishonest, describing him effectively like someone with liar written into their DNA.

This is not political opportunism; the fate of our democratic institutions, checks and balances are at stake here. I think the Tories are taking a massive gamble by sticking with Boris; if the electorate think they can't be trusted and live by another set of rules to the rest of us they could be out of power for 10-15 years after this.

The Tories were once a broad church but have now purged their party of Europhiles and those slightly right of centre, so that now even Theresa May seems moderate by comparison. They don't have the numbers to transform their party from what it is now - a self-serving operation, anti-immigration, increasingly Anglophile and Europhobe.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
Starmer using some powerful language there. These are strong words; it does Britain no good internationally for the Opposition leader to be branding the PM as fundamentally dishonest, describing him effectively like someone with liar written into their DNA.

This is not political opportunism; the fate of our democratic institutions, checks and balances are at stake here. I think the Tories are taking a massive gamble by sticking with Boris; if the electorate think they can't be trusted and live by another set of rules to the rest of us they could be out of power for 10-15 years after this.

The Tories were once a broad church but have now purged their party of Europhiles and those slightly right of centre, so that now even Theresa May seems moderate by comparison. They don't have the numbers to transform their party from what it is now - a self-serving operation, anti-immigration, increasingly Anglophile and Europhobe.
Perhaps if the Prime Minister could actually stop lying, the leader of the opposition might stop labelling him a liar.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,721
Starmer using some powerful language there. These are strong words; it does Britain no good internationally for the Opposition leader to be branding the PM as fundamentally dishonest, describing him effectively like someone with liar written into their DNA.

This is not political opportunism; the fate of our democratic institutions, checks and balances are at stake here. I think the Tories are taking a massive gamble by sticking with Boris; if the electorate think they can't be trusted and live by another set of rules to the rest of us they could be out of power for 10-15 years after this.

The Tories were once a broad church but have now purged their party of Europhiles and those slightly right of centre, so that now even Theresa May seems moderate by comparison. They don't have the numbers to transform their party from what it is now - a self-serving operation, anti-immigration, increasingly Anglophile and Europhobe.

.. and Conservative voters take note. The party you always supported has been taken over by the looney right hiding behind a populist free spender of others money who will do, say and lie about anything to stay in power.

The party is currently digging itself a hole it will eventually fall down and stay down for a decade, unless the PM is removed.

We all know how this finishes.
 








Bodian

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May 3, 2012
13,454
Cumbria

Full speech here https://news.sky.com/video/keir-starmer-pms-apology-half-hearted-12593886 - worth listening to.

"A Man Without Shame" - just one of Starmer's comments about Johnson. And noticeable that he basically just called him 'that man' and so on.

“The damage is already done. The public have made up their mind. They don’t believe a word the Prime Minister says. They know what he is.

As ever with this Prime Minister those close to him find themselves ruined and the institutions he vows to protect damaged.

Good ministers forced to walk away from public service. The Chancellor’s career up in flames. And the Leader of the Scottish Conservatives rendered pathetic.

For all those unfamiliar with this Prime Minister’s career. This isn’t some fixable glitch in the system. It’s the whole point. It’s what he does. It’s who he is.

He knows he’s dishonest and incapable of changing. So he drags everybody else down with him. The more people debase themselves, parroting his absurd defences, the more the public will believe all politicians are the same. All as bad as each other. And that suits this Prime Minister just fine."
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
25,575
West is BEST
And the winner of silliest post of the day is...:facepalm:

They already believe the Brexit lies, the Rwands lie, the partygate lies, the covid lies, the cost of living crisis lies, the Russian oligarch sanction lies, the lies about employment figures, the lies about covid death figures.

They already accept the lies to the queen, the lies to parliament, the lies to the British public, the handing of billions of pounds worth of useless contracts to their mates.

It's not a huge leap to imagine they would believe the lies of a different tyrannical government.

As I stated on another thread Putin and Johnson are different beasts, but they both deliberately push the boundaries of what they can get away with, within their respective power frameworks.
 




Mike Small

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Dec 26, 2008
2,897
And the winner of silliest post of the day is...:facepalm:

Disagree. Hence my point. We have a government of complete liars completely lacking in any moral compass. If they could control the media they would and a lot of the country would go along with whatever they said. See that big red NHS bus, levelling up etc etc etc etc.
 




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