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Who are you expecting Labour to enter into a pact with?
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Who are you expecting Labour to enter into a pact with?
- Jul 10, 2003
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I don't think they are 'leave'. I think they are negotiate a customs union deal, then put it to a second referendum and have been for some time.
Sounds like they've found a right charmer
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In terms of party policy, they are certainly not unequivocally Remain. However, they are certainly a logical voting option for a Remain supporter - committed as they are to softening Brexit if it happens, and putting it all to a second referendum.
So a 'Remain (supporting voters) Alliance', if you prefer.
- Jul 10, 2003
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Which, ironically, was what the Leave campaign promised from the first referendum. Not 'no deal' or a border down the Irish sea
KZNSeagull
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Labour have yet to decide whether they will support remain or leave in any second referendum. So they will negotiate another deal, but may then support remain.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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i think they are only a logical option for Remain if you believe their alternative agreement would likely be rejected in a referendum.
No doubt on the Tory pay role [emoji23]
General election: Ex-Labour minister urges voters to support Tories as Jeremy Corbyn is 'unfit' http://news.sky.com/story/general-e...porters-to-lend-the-tories-our-votes-11856077
General election: Ex-Labour minister urges voters to support Tories as Jeremy Corbyn is 'unfit' http://news.sky.com/story/general-e...porters-to-lend-the-tories-our-votes-11856077
BBassic
I changed this.
- Jul 28, 2011
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Labour has promised an "irreversible shift" of power and investment to working people outside the south-east of England, if they win the election.
John McDonnell will pledge £150bn for schools, hospitals and housing on top of existing spending plans to be paid for through borrowing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50325059
Do the sums and equations behind figures like £150bn ever get published? All the article says is "paid for through borrowing"
Where's the detail on that?
I always wonder this when I read party manifestos. "we're going to do this" or "extra money will be made available for that" but with no word on how that's going to be achieved.
John McDonnell will pledge £150bn for schools, hospitals and housing on top of existing spending plans to be paid for through borrowing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50325059
Do the sums and equations behind figures like £150bn ever get published? All the article says is "paid for through borrowing"
Where's the detail on that?
I always wonder this when I read party manifestos. "we're going to do this" or "extra money will be made available for that" but with no word on how that's going to be achieved.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Who does Ian Austin think he is calling other people 'unfit'? Even 20 years ago when he played for England he was a fat boy.
Unless the voter in question lives in a marginal Lab / LibDem constituency, that's nonsense.
If you are a Remain voter in England, in a seat that the LibDems cannot win then Labour is unquestionably the logical choice. It is all about stopping a Tory majority, which would give them free reign to inflict the worst case scenario.
Best case: Remain wins second referendum
Next best case: New softer (inc customs union) Brexit deal wins (with or without a second referendum)
Worst case: Tory party do as they wish, with a commons majority
Mellor 3 Ward 4
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You can make light of it, but when a respected ex Labour minister says the current leader was "completely unfit" to be PM it has to carry weight.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The LibDems, Green and Plaid Cymru have made a pact in 60 constituencies to allow just one candidate between them. Labour refused to cooperate with this remain alliance.
You can check if your constutuency is one of them.
https://news.sky.com/story/general-...f-anti-brexit-parties-electoral-pact-11856318
You can check if your constutuency is one of them.
https://news.sky.com/story/general-...f-anti-brexit-parties-electoral-pact-11856318
Of course he’ll make light of it, inside he’s thinking treacherous barsteward.
You can probably replace the word 'respected' with 'bitter'.
FWIW there is a long list of moderate former Tory ministers with the same opinion of Johnson
[MENTION=534]Chicken Run[/MENTION], you’re completely right, Ian Austin, who resigned from the Labour Party 9 months ago, is in fact the Prime Ministerial Trade Envoy to Israel, a Tory appointment.
Funny how no main stream media have mentioned this, is almost as if they are biased, but, well done Mr Austin, that should see your job safe if the Toriesare still in power come December 13th.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
He's Johnson's trade envoy to Israel, so he's on the Tory pay role as you said, therefore it's hardly a surprise he's endorsing his new boss.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
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Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
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- Jan 30, 2008
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