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Hungry Joe

SINNEN
Oct 22, 2004
7,636
Heading for shore
Apologies if this has already been posted but I couldn't be arsed to trawl through every post. Even if it has it's worth reading again, especially for anyone misguided enough to be considering supporting the BNP. If only I'd had a copy to hand when I threw back the BNP leaflets that that dangerous young woman who's standing for them in my area had dropped through my door. Mind you, she probably still wouldn't have 'got it', the silly cow.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/18/charlie-brooker-bnp-racism

The BNP represents Britain's workers? They don't even represent basic British craftsmanship
Charlie Brooker The Guardian, Monday 18 May 2009 Article history

I was born in the 70s and grew up in a tiny rural village. There was, I think, only one black kid in my primary school. One day, someone pushed him over and called him "blackjack". The headmaster called an impromptu assembly. It involved the entire school, and took place outdoors. No doubt: this was unusual.

We stood in military rows in the playground. I must have been about six, so I can't remember the words he used, but the substance stuck. He spoke with eerie, measured anger. He'd fought in the second world war, he told us. Our village had a memorial commemorating friends of his who had died. Many were relatives of ours. These villagers gave their lives fighting a regime that looked down on anyone "different", that tried to blame others for any problem they could find; a bullying, racist regime called "the Nazis". Millions of people had died thanks to their bigotry and prejudice. And he told us that anyone who picked on anyone else because they were "different' wasn't merely insulting the object of their derision, but insulting the headmaster himself, and his dead friends, and our dead relatives, the ones on the war memorial. And if he heard of anyone - anyone - using racist language again, they'd immediately get the slipper.

Corporal punishment was still alive and well, see. The slipper was his nuclear bomb.

It was the first time I was explicitly told that racism was unpleasant and it was a lesson served with a side order of patriot fries. Or rather, chips. Our headmaster had fought for his country, and for tolerance, all at once. That's what I understood it meant to be truly "British": to be polite, and civil and fair of mind. (And to occasionally wallop schoolkids with slippers, admittedly, but we'll overlook that, OK? We've moved on.)

But according to the BNP, I'm wrong. Being British is actually about feeling aggressed, mistrustful, overlooked, isolated, powerless, and petrified of "losing my identity". Britishness incorporates a propensity to look around me with jealous eyes, fuming over imaginary sums of money being doled out to child-molesting asylum-seekers by corrupt PC politicians who've lost touch with the common man - a common man who, coincidentally, happens to be white.

They're wrong, obviously. None of these qualities has anything whatsoever to do with being British, but everything to do with ugly nationalist politics. And ugly nationalist politics are popular all over the world. Just like Pringles. Every country has its own tiny enclave of frightened, disenfranchised, misguided souls clinging to their national flag, claiming they're the REAL patriots, saying everyone's out to get them. It's an international weakness. For the BNP to claim to be more British than the other British parties is as nonsensical as your dad suddenly claiming to have invented the beard.

The other day, the BNP had a political broadcast on the box. I wasn't in my beloved homeland at the time, but I heard about it, via internet chuckles of derision. Fellow geeky types tweeting about the poor production values. I looked it up on YouTube. Sure enough, it was badly made. No surprise there. Extremist material of any kind always looks gaudy and cheap, like a bad pizza menu. Not because they can't afford decent computers - these days you can knock up a professional CD cover on a pay-as-you-go mobile - but because anyone who's good at graphic design is likely to be a thoughtful, inquisitive sort by nature. And thoughtful, inquisitive sorts tend to think fascism is a bit shit, to be honest. If the BNP really were the greatest British party, they'd have the greatest British designer working for them - Jonathan Ive, perhaps, the man who designed the iPod. But they don't. They've got someone who tries to stab your eyes out with primary colours.

But there's more to the advert's failure than its hideous use of colour schemes. Every aspect of it is bad. The framing is bad. The sound is bad. The script is bad. For all their talk about representing the Great British Worker, when it comes to promotional material, the BNP can't even represent the most basic British craftsmanship.

Nick Griffin's first line is "Don't turn it off!", which in terms of opening gambits is about as enticing as hearing someone shout "Try not to be sick!" immediately prior to intercourse. He goes on to claim that, "We're all angry about professional politicians with their snouts in the public trough." He's right, we are: so angry we're prepared to instantly forget all the occasions we've fiddled our own expenses, thereby enabling us to add a dash of undeserved self-righteousness to our existing justified anger.

But by referring to "professional politicians", Griffin is presumably suggesting we should elect amateurs instead. Maybe that's why the advert's so amateurish. Maybe that's why all the BNP representatives in the ad read their lines so clumsily, like DFS employees in a bank holiday sale commercial circa 1986, or recently revived chemical coma patients being forced to recite barcode numbers at gunpoint. It's deliberate incompetence. Don't vote for those nasty slick parties. Vote for a shoddy one! Never mind the extremism, feel the ineptitude.

Here's a fantasy. We - the decent British majority - spend years toiling in secret, creating a life-size replica of Britain in the middle of the Pacific. It's identical down to the tiniest blade of grass, or branch of Gregg's. And one night, while every member of the BNP is asleep, we whisk them via helicopter to this replica UK, this Backup Britain. Put them in replica beds in replica homes. Then we fly back home to watch the fun on CCTV.

For several weeks, they walk around, confused, but pleased. The weather's nice! More importantly, there are no black faces! Then the infrastructure breaks down and they start to starve, and there's no one to blame but themselves. And then someone with GPS on their phone works out what's happened, realises they've all become immigrants in their own land. Half of them go mad and start attacking each other. The rest desperately apply for asylum in Britain. The real Britain. The decent, tolerant Britain. The country you can be proud of.
 
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Stoo82

GEEZUS!
Jul 8, 2008
7,530
Hove
Thats what i thought Cov. Not that i suport the BNP though.
Its funny, The Daily Mail is the voice of SATAN!!!! and the Gardian is the voice of loverly little puppys who will only tell you the truth!!
 


Common as Mook

Not Posh as Fook
Jul 26, 2004
5,634
The other day, the BNP had a political broadcast on the box. I wasn't in my beloved homeland at the time, but I heard about it, via internet chuckles of derision. Fellow geeky types tweeting about the poor production values. I looked it up on YouTube. Sure enough, it was badly made. No surprise there. Extremist material of any kind always looks gaudy and cheap, like a bad pizza menu. Not because they can't afford decent computers - these days you can knock up a professional CD cover on a pay-as-you-go mobile - but because anyone who's good at graphic design is likely to be a thoughtful, inquisitive sort by nature. And thoughtful, inquisitive sorts tend to think fascism is a bit shit, to be honest. If the BNP really were the greatest British party, they'd have the greatest British designer working for them - Jonathan Ive, perhaps, the man who designed the iPod. But they don't. They've got someone who tries to stab your eyes out with primary colours.

Nail. Head.
 
















Dick Knights Mumm

Take me Home Falmer Road
Jul 5, 2003
19,707
Hither and Thither
I was born in the 70s and grew up in a tiny rural village. There was, I think, only one black kid in my primary school. One day, someone pushed him over and called him "blackjack". The headmaster called an impromptu assembly. It involved the entire school, and took place outdoors. No doubt: this was unusual.

We stood in military rows in the playground. I must have been about six, so I can't remember the words he used, but the substance stuck. He spoke with eerie, measured anger. He'd fought in the second world war, he told us. Our village had a memorial commemorating friends of his who had died. Many were relatives of ours. These villagers gave their lives fighting a regime that looked down on anyone "different", that tried to blame others for any problem they could find; a bullying, racist regime called "the Nazis". Millions of people had died thanks to their bigotry and prejudice. And he told us that anyone who picked on anyone else because they were "different' wasn't merely insulting the object of their derision, but insulting the headmaster himself, and his dead friends, and our dead relatives, the ones on the war memorial.

Word.
 
















Hungry Joe

SINNEN
Oct 22, 2004
7,636
Heading for shore
Enjoy it while it lasts :)

Ahh, I'm to be invaded by reality am I? Will this new reality be an immigrant reality living inside my indigenous one? Hmmm.

Seriously though, this 'I live in the real world' stuff gets trotted out a lot by BNP supporters when they can't argue a point. It's as if it doesn't matter what anyone says to them because if it's any different from their own view point it's because whoever's saying it doesn't live in 'the real world'. If that's so there must be millions of deluded people out there living in a complete fantasyland whilst the tiny minority inhabit 'the real world'. It must be a very lonely place this real world.

So, having read the article coventrygull are you in fact saying that Charlie's headmaster and his mates who fought in WWII were also living and dying in and for an illusion? I'd love to see you argue that one down The British Legion.
 


Dick Knights Mumm

Take me Home Falmer Road
Jul 5, 2003
19,707
Hither and Thither
So, rather than educating them why the Nazi's and the BNP are wrong. He just quilt tripped them.

By that time the world know that the nazi's were wrong. Any photos of the concentration camps will have told them that. What he was doing was pointing out was their responsibilities to older generation who made many sacrifices so that we do not pick on people just because they are different.
 


coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
Ahh, I'm to be invaded by reality am I? Will this new reality be an immigrant reality living inside my indigenous one? Hmmm.

Seriously though, this 'I live in the real world' stuff gets trotted out a lot by BNP supporters when they can't argue a point. It's as if it doesn't matter what anyone says to them because if it's any different from their own view point it's because whoever's saying it doesn't live in 'the real world'. If that's so there must be millions of deluded people out there living in a complete fantasyland whilst the tiny minority inhabit 'the real world'. It must be a very lonely place this real world.

So, having read the article coventrygull are you in fact saying that Charlie's headmaster and his mates who fought in WWII were also living and dying in and for an illusion? I'd love to see you argue that one down The British Legion.

Many who fought in World War II also support the BNP.
 






Dick Knights Mumm

Take me Home Falmer Road
Jul 5, 2003
19,707
Hither and Thither
Many who fought in World War II also support the BNP.

Before the war people who were subsequently conscripted and fought must have worn brown shirts.

It is an indictment of the political system if people who fought the Nazi's now feel their only choice is with the type of political ideology their comrades in arms gave their lives fighting.
 


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