Super David Cameron's Key Note Speech Today

[Uncle Spielberg]

I think Cameron comes across as a decent Man. Whether he can deliver we will have to wait and see but he is shackled with anti Tory feeling from previous administrations whereby people will not give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[The Large One]

The modern, meritocratic face of the Tories revealed...

Obviously, we know who 2 and 8 are. Is 4 Oliver Letwin? Who are the rest?

 

[Billy the Fish]

I don't see why people think the Tories are going to announce all of their policies two years before an election.i

 

[bright1064]

An Idol for the likes of David Cameron & George Osborne

 

[Normal Rob]

people will not give him the benefit of the doubt.

hmmm - not the ideal political platform is it...

 

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

Obviously, we know who 2 and 8 are. Is 4 Oliver Letwin? Who are the rest?

Its shocking to see that posh school still plays a part in politics and power. same old tories, cameroon is just another spin junkie, may be a charming man but no substance.

 

[Trufflehound]

Obviously, we know who 2 and 8 are. Is 4 Oliver Letwin? Who are the rest?

Apparently (according to the Daily Mail) they are:

(1) Sebastian Grigg (who?)
(2) That bloke off the telly
(3) Ralph Perry-Robinson (who?)
(4) Ewen Fergusson (who?)
(5) Matthew Benson (who?)
(6) Sebastian James (who?)
(7) Jonathan Ford (who?)
(8) A Twat
(9) Harry Eastwood (who?)

Cameron's cronies in the Bullingdon class of '87 | Mail Online

 

[Billy the Fish]

Its shocking to see that posh school still plays a part in politics and power.

Why is it shocking, what is wrong with having a good education?

 

[aftershavedave]

Oxford University's Bullingdon Club - The Members:

1. Sebastian Grigg

Still close to David Cameron, Grigg knew him from Eton and lives nearby, in Holland Park. Born into privilege - he is the oldest son of Baron Altrincham, Anthony Ullick David Dundas Grigg, and went to Eton before going to Oriel College - he is now a member of the moneyed aristocracy as a partner at Goldman Sachs.

He and his wife, former Times journalist Rachel Kelly, host an annual Christmas drinks in Lansdowne Crescent which is very much a fixture for Notting Hill grandees. Grigg made an unsuccessful bid to be a Tory MP.

2. David Cameron

Misdemeanours with cannabis aside, Cameron was clearly a surefooted operator at Eton, for by the time he arrived at Oxford he had the social connections to make joining the Bullingdon Club easy.

He still found time for work, though, getting a first in Philosophy, Politics and Economics before going on to work at the Conservative Research Department. Spells at the Treasury and Home Office, then seven years as communications head at Carlton TV. Elected MP for Witney in 2001, and became Tory leader in 2005.

3. Ralph Perry Robinson

A former child actor, he had a walkon part in the 1984 film Another Country, that study of public school homosexuality and betrayal.

At Oxford he once paraded round Oriel quad dressed as a monk and calling for virgins to be sacrificed. A former pupil of the Prince of Wales Institute of Architecture, he was recruited by Richard Rogers to help him design a virtual reality centre in Japan. He now lives in a village near Salisbury, Wiltshire, where he makes furniture.

4. Ewen Fergusson

Generally thought of as the "quiet one" of the group, Fergusson also had a wild side and is thought to have been responsible for a notorious Bullingdon incident in which a plant pot was thrown through a restaurant window, resulting in six members spending a night in police cells.

The son of former rugby international turned British ambassador in Paris Sir Ewen Fergusson, Ewen Junior - Rugby and Oriel - is now a partner in the banking and finance section of City law firm Herbert Smith.

5. Matthew Benson

Born into proper money - his family were wealthy merchant bankers - Benson spent three years working for Morgan Stanley before setting up a property consultancy.

Now a director of Rettie and Co, an Edinburgh-based property company, he married in 1997 Lady Lulu Douglas-Hamilton, ex-wife of Lord Patrick Douglas-Hamilton, at a ceremony which involved a ruined castle being rebuilt over three floors.

6. Sebastian James

Another Bullingdon blue blood, James is the son of Lord Northbourne, a major landowner from Kent. Something of an entrepreneur, his business ventures have included a DVD rental business, Silverscreen, and a dotcom business, ClassicForum, which was supposed to be an eBay for rare books.

7. Jonathan Ford

The president of the Bullingdon - a post to which Boris Johnson aspired, but never succeeded in attaining - the Westminster-educated Ford was elected to the post because "he had a mad genius about him".

After Oxford, where he read modern history, he had a spell in the City as a banker with Morgan Grenfell before going into financial journalism. He is now deputy editor of a financial website, and married to Susannah Herbert, literary editor of the Sunday Times.

8. Boris Johnson

He looked much the same then as he does now, albeit a trifle slimmer, and was regarded in much the same light: ludicrous, but with an ambition that is not to be underestimated. Beaten by Ford for the post of president of the Buller, he made up for it by becoming president of the Oxford Union.

Editor of the Spectator from 1999 to 2005, and MP for Henley since 2001, his chief occupations outside journalism and politics would seem to be amusing television quiz show audiences and being unfaithful to his wives (two, at the last count).

9. Harry Eastwood

Another old Etonian, after Oxford Eastwood worked in corporate finance at Storehouse, the retail group. Later tried his hand at setting up his own business, co-founding a firm called Filmbox which aimed to operate vending machines for people to rent videos from. They were persuasive enough to get backers to stump up £450,000, but the business was a failure before it even got off the ground. Is now commercial director for a company called Monkey.

 

[Buzzer]

An Idol for the likes of David Cameron & George Osborne

Haha! That's f***ing brilliant! Nearly spat my tea all over the monitor there!

Cause Cameron and Osborne are posh just like that comedy character. Oh my days. I'm still giggling. Did you think that up yourself because it's comedy gold.

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[Barrel of Fun]

is that an admission that as yet the Tory party have tabled no real policies?

Why would the Tories reveal their policies at the moment, when Labour are desperately trying to stay in power? They have past form of nicking policies and it is quite conceivable that they could do the same. Never show your cards too early. There is potentially a long way to go yet, before the next general election.

 

[bright1064]

Haha! That's f***ing brilliant! Nearly spat my tea all over the monitor there!

Cause Cameron and Osborne are posh just like that comedy character. Oh my days. I'm still giggling. Did you think that up yourself because it's comedy gold.

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All my own work Buzzer

I think it sums up the Tory party pretty well.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

All my own work Buzzer

I think it sums up the Tory party pretty well.

Tony Blair WAS Labour and he did not fall out of a local comprehensive with very few qualifications.

Background should not come into it. Aside from that point, at least we know the Tories are well educated.

 

[Billy the Fish]

All my own work Buzzer

I think it sums up the Tory party pretty well.

Except that Normal Rob already did that joke 3 hours ago. On this thread.

 

[Normal Rob]

Why would the Tories reveal their policies at the moment, when Labour are desperately trying to stay in power? They have past form of nicking policies and it is quite conceivable that they could do the same. Never show your cards too early. There is potentially a long way to go yet, before the next general election.

because i want to underdstand how they plan to achieve what they say they will achieve. Better schools and hospitals i'm all for, but at what cost? The money cannot be magicked out of thin air and i want to know were it will come from, who will be forced to make sacrifices? who will have to go without? and yes - will it adversely affect me? By not tabling any policies yet again they have failed to persuade me to change my allegiance.

 

[bright1064]

Except that Normal Rob already did that joke 3 hours ago. On this thread.

I take it you didn't find it very funny that time either

 

[Buzzer]

Haha! I'm still laughing at it.

Seriously funny stuff. Surprised no-one else thought of it but I guess you've either got funny bones or you haven't

 

[Buzzer]

because i want to underdstand how they plan to achieve what they say they will achieve. Better schools and hospitals i'm all for, but at what cost? The money cannot be magicked out of thin air and i want to know were it will come from, who will be forced to make sacrifices? who will have to go without? and yes - will it adversely affect me? By not tabling any policies yet again they have failed to persuade me to change my allegiance.

Of course you were open minded about the Tories. The posh thick Tory photo you posted in no way betrays how you always will view them.

Have you met simster? He's a floating voter willing to listen just like you

 

[Billy the Fish]

because i want to underdstand how they plan to achieve what they say they will achieve. Better schools and hospitals i'm all for, but at what cost? The money cannot be magicked out of thin air and i want to know were it will come from, who will be forced to make sacrifices? who will have to go without? and yes - will it adversely affect me? By not tabling any policies yet again they have failed to persuade me to change my allegiance.

I'm assuming that they'll do that in the run up to the election, that's when it matters. Obviously if they don't come up with anything specific then they're in trouble.

 

[Dover]

As a nurse the NHS or it's present line has to change, which he outlined, in an Enid Bylton sense of politics. Eg. vote for the posh kids and everyting will be alright.

An awful lot of hot air, but lets face it no real substance. I could have been at the pub listening to a Tory boy in full swing.