Super David Cameron's Key Note Speech Today

[captainmorganrum]

BBC NEWS | Politics | The words of David Cameron

Endless fun could be had here by someone with one of them sentence generator things.

Just looking at it, the sentences 'Promote bureaucratic terrorism!' and 'Help create personal failure' are two that we could invent here.

But of course it is by those pinko commies at the beeb eh?

 

[Buzzer]

David Cameron is to tackle head-on Gordon Brown's claim that he lacks the experience to steer Britain through the current economic crisis.

In a speech to the Tory conference he will say: "It's not experience we need, it's character and judgement."

And he will tell the party faithful: "To rebuild our economy, it's not more of the same we need, but change."




Oooh, convincing. we need a new party in charge. We don't have experience, but we do have unquantifiable buzz words for you.
Does it clash with Deal or No Deal? which right-wing idiot will the masses watch?

Presume you'll be cheering on McCain against the inexperienced untested media friendly Obama then?

I can't wait to hear you squirm your way out of that

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Oooh, convincing. we need a new party in charge. We don't have experience, but we do have unquantifiable buzz words for you.

Add SPIN to the buzz words and you've got Labour in 1997 and look at the shit that's got us into!

 

[supaseagull]

what people are failing to realise is that the country would be in the same state as it is now, regardless of whether Labour or Tory are in government.

Is anyone seriously saying that a Conservative government would have done things any differently with the economy to what Brown & Blair have done? If you are then you're either incredibly stupid, incredibly fickle or just a die-hard anti labour voter.

The Tories have been synonymous with boom and bust over the last 50 years. The difference is that over last 10 years Labour stole Conservative economic policy from Kenneth Clarke and implemented it themselves!

 

[Bars Mar]

If I was a Tory, I'd be EMBARRASSED to have Gareth Glover on my side.

I Might Not Know Anything About Politics But I Do Know That Garth Is A Colossus Amongst You NSC Pygmies. He's Singlehandedly Twatting All The Bullies Away In This Thread.

Not Just For His Kind Support. Not Just For His Heroic Work With The Robin Asquith Fund. Not Just For Being A Nice Guy. I'm Proud To Call Him A Friend.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Oh No... Bars is in town.

Feet up, Pack of pringles, strawberry milkshake

 

[NMH]

what people are failing to realise is that the country would be in the same state as it is now, regardless of whether Labour or Tory are in government.

Is anyone seriously saying that a Conservative government would have done things any differently with the economy to what Brown & Blair have done? If you are then you're either incredibly stupid, incredibly fickle or just a die-hard anti labour voter.

The Tories have been synonymous with boom and bust over the last 50 years. The difference is that over last 10 years Labour stole Conservative economic policy from Kenneth Clarke and implemented it themselves!

Well, the tories would have raised the interest rate, which would have seen more first-time buyers bankrupted or in awful credit situations, and older people losing their house they completely owned just because they borrowed some dosh to have an extension put on it.
So, more people renting off of wealthy multi-property owner landlords as they only 'bolster the economy' by bidding against each other for bank repossessions which would be comparable to shooting shoals of fish in a barrel.
Inflation would have been horrible, and that would have only been stemmed by the general public being unable to afford anything and struggled to put food on the table and paid their wealthy landlord the rent and buy petrol for their ailing car they can't possibly afford to replace and .......

Wait, I'm getting that feeling of deja vu.....

 

[Westdene Seagull]

what people are failing to realise is that the country would be in the same state as it is now, regardless of whether Labour or Tory are in government.

Is anyone seriously saying that a Conservative government would have done things any differently with the economy to what Brown & Blair have done? If you are then you're either incredibly stupid, incredibly fickle or just a die-hard anti labour voter.

The Tories have been synonymous with boom and bust over the last 50 years. The difference is that over last 10 years Labour stole Conservative economic policy from Kenneth Clarke and implemented it themselves!

On some aspects of the economy I would agree with you but I'm pretty sure the Tories would not have plundered the pension schemes, sold large amounts of our gold reserves at rock bottom prices AND increased the countrys debt significantly. Indeed, the last Tory government, however bad they can be considered, reduced the countys debt that they inherited from the previous Labour government.

 

[NMH]

I Might Not Know Anything About Politics But I Do Know That Garth Is A Colossus Amongst You NSC Pygmies. He's Singlehandedly Twatting All The Bullies Away In This Thread.

Not Just For His Kind Support. Not Just For His Heroic Work With The Robin Asquith Fund. Not Just For Being A Nice Guy. I'm Proud To Call Him A Friend.

Your friend 'Garth' will undoubtably benefit from your association on his behalf.

or not.

 

[larus]

what people are failing to realise is that the country would be in the same state as it is now, regardless of whether Labour or Tory are in government.

Is anyone seriously saying that a Conservative government would have done things any differently with the economy to what Brown & Blair have done? If you are then you're either incredibly stupid, incredibly fickle or just a die-hard anti labour voter.

The Tories have been synonymous with boom and bust over the last 50 years. The difference is that over last 10 years Labour stole Conservative economic policy from Kenneth Clarke and implemented it themselves!

Hmm. OK.

1. So what you're saying is then that Labour have had no effect on the state of the economy. If that's the case, then it doesn't matter if we have a novice in charge, as they can have no effect on the economy. You can't have it both ways.

2. Yes, big time. The Tories would have restrained public spending and hence national debt. They would have been better prepared for the bust which we are in to allow us to borrow more in the lean times. I'm nat saying that their policies would have prevented the crash, as this is more down to business and individuals. Joe public has borrowed more than they can afford and spent on a consumer life-style.

3. Every Labour government always screws up ther economy. The Tories have a much better track record of economic competence than Labour. Wilson and devaluation! Callaghan and the Winter of Discontent!.

The simple fact is that without a strong economy, no government has the income to invest in essential public services. The defference in emphasis between left and right, is that the right sees business as the way to build a strong economy to generate revenue to allow public services to be provided. The left says that everyone should be entitled to everything for nothing.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

According to a lot of NSC the problems now or down to Margaret Thatcher from the 1980's. I mean they really do believe this , in that case I blame the fact BHAFC are still playing in the 3rd division on Jimmy Melia.

And a lot of people on NSC gave the Tories the credit for the state of our economy when it was doing well and now blame Labour when it isn't!

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Hey lets go the whole Hog and rename NSC " The Labour Party Forum ".

There is a healthy balance of Labour and Tory supporters on here.

 

[Trufflehound]

I blame the fact BHAFC are still playing in the 3rd division on Jimmy Melia.

Brighton are playing on Jimmy Melia?

Is he buried under the pitch at Withdean then?

And how do you know this fact? Do you have a dark secret, US?

 

[Bars Mar]

Your friend 'Garth' will undoubtably benefit from your association on his behalf.

or not.

He Doesnt Need To. People Hang On Garth's Every Word. That's Why He Gets So Many Responses. Unlike Some That Post Page After Page That No-One Reads. How Many People Quote You?


And He's A Financial Whizzkid Who Has Even Put City Boys In Their Place. We're Lucky To Have Him Here

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

what people are failing to realise is that the country would be in the same state as it is now, regardless of whether Labour or Tory are in government.

Is anyone seriously saying that a Conservative government would have done things any differently with the economy to what Brown & Blair have done? If you are then you're either incredibly stupid, incredibly fickle or just a die-hard anti labour voter.

The Tories have been synonymous with boom and bust over the last 50 years. The difference is that over last 10 years Labour stole Conservative economic policy from Kenneth Clarke and implemented it themselves!

Very very true. There are a lot of people on here who seem to think that the New Labour government that we have had in charge for the past 11 years are left wing or Socialist, well they are not. There isn't a lot of difference between Labour and the Tories these days.

 

[Trufflehound]

There is a healthy balance of Labour and Tory supporters on here.

And even one or two people who are neither...

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

And even one or two people who are neither...

Yes agreed, but for US to call NSC a Labour Party Forum is pathetic.

 

[NMH]

He Doesnt Need To. People Hang On Garth's Every Word. That's Why He Gets So Many Responses. Unlike Some That Post Page After Page That No-One Reads. How Many People Quote You?


And He's A Financial Whizzkid Who Has Even Put City Boys In Their Place. We're Lucky To Have Him Here

No-one quotes me Bars.

oh.

I aspire to put people in their place like 'Garth' (your friend), it must have its' rewards, and I should remember to THANK him for so regularly putting me in mine.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Hmm. OK.

1. So what you're saying is then that Labour have had no effect on the state of the economy. If that's the case, then it doesn't matter if we have a novice in charge, as they can have no effect on the economy. You can't have it both ways.

2. Yes, big time. The Tories would have restrained public spending and hence national debt. They would have been better prepared for the bust which we are in to allow us to borrow more in the lean times. I'm nat saying that their policies would have prevented the crash, as this is more down to business and individuals. Joe public has borrowed more than they can afford and spent on a consumer life-style.

3. Every Labour government always screws up ther economy. The Tories have a much better track record of economic competence than Labour. Wilson and devaluation! Callaghan and the Winter of Discontent!.

The simple fact is that without a strong economy, no government has the income to invest in essential public services. The defference in emphasis between left and right, is that the right sees business as the way to build a strong economy to generate revenue to allow public services to be provided. The left says that everyone should be entitled to everything for nothing.

Would the Tories have put tighter controls on the financial institutions in this country? Thereby reducing our huge personal debt and preventing banks giving out mortgages at seven times your personal income, I think not.

 

[drew]

Hmm. OK.

1. So what you're saying is then that Labour have had no effect on the state of the economy. If that's the case, then it doesn't matter if we have a novice in charge, as they can have no effect on the economy. You can't have it both ways. I think the point is that Labour had no control over the mortgage lending in the US which has led to this economic meltdown, ie the credit crunch. Without the subprime stupidity of American lenders, the lending market would not have suffered the 100% loss of confidence which has now spread across the world. UK mortgage lenders may have lent upto 125% but I bet you they made sure the borrower was in employment and could afford the repayments.

2. Yes, big time. The Tories would have restrained public spending and hence national debt. They would have been better prepared for the bust which we are in to allow us to borrow more in the lean times. I'm nat saying that their policies would have prevented the crash, as this is more down to business and individuals. Joe public has borrowed more than they can afford and spent on a consumer life-style. Exactly when have the Tories reigned in personal spending. The only control they had was to increase interest rates. That is now the job of the Bank of England, which the tories objected to but now apparently support.

3. Every Labour government always screws up ther economy. The Tories have a much better track record of economic competence than Labour. Wilson and devaluation! Callaghan and the Winter of Discontent!.

The simple fact is that without a strong economy, no government has the income to invest in essential public services. The defference in emphasis between left and right, is that the right sees business as the way to build a strong economy to generate revenue to allow public services to be provided. The left says that everyone should be entitled to everything for nothing.

Not sure what you are saying. If I read it right, you say the tories create a stronger economy in order to allow public services. However, when they had a stronger economy when did they ever improve public services? As for your final sentence, utter right wing media garbage. The left never say that and do not support that. What they stand for is for equal opportunity for all, not equal opportunity for the fortunate few.