So Gus asked to leave the club in March!

[Hungry Joe]

Whatever happens on the pitch this season I am greatly relieved that we now have a manager who is obviously talented, but is also a humble and respectful human being.

 

[Gordon Smith's Paperboy]

What confuses me is what happened in May. Gus evidently wanted to leave the club and the club had reached a stage where they wanted him gone. Why go through all the suspension/dismissal stuff? If both parties wanted the same outcome then this last summer makes no sense at all.....

 

[ROSM]

Could it be as simple as the club refused him permission to leave for Reading??

That's not what I've heard. They gave permission (it was part of the contract if a prem club came in and agreed to meet the compensation amount that he could talk to them). I suspect it would have made the boards day of he had left then. But as I say, to have someone's resignation in your hand and then still suspend and discipline them is a strange chain of events.

As I've said before. I was told in April that Gus would leave and it was primarily a result of his relationship (or lack of it) with Paul Barber. I was told of the march bust up and that it was agreed he could go at the end of the season if both parties still felt it was the right thing to do.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

What confuses me is what happened in May. Gus evidently wanted to leave the club and the club had reached a stage where they wanted him gone. Why go through all the suspension/dismissal stuff? If both parties wanted the same outcome then this last summer makes no sense at all.....

Maybe when push come to shove Gus refused to walk.

 

[somerset]

What confuses me is what happened in May. Gus evidently wanted to leave the club and the club had reached a stage where they wanted him gone. Why go through all the suspension/dismissal stuff? If both parties wanted the same outcome then this last summer makes no sense at all.....

He could have talked to other clubs, ( Sunderland/Reading) without the clubs permission, in most sporting circles I think that is called a breach of contract. Tapping up isn't allowed, so why reward him for this behaviour with a compensation package,.... foolish in these tight economic times, or if I was to be cruel,.... throwing good money after bad.

 

[Icy Gull]

Maybe when push come to shove Gus refused to walk.

Without a payoff, hence what followed.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

It would be nice to have a 'Gus Free' comment season, gone, done and dusted, move on.

Does that mean we should not bring up Belotti, Archer, Zamora, Leon Knight, the '83 cup final, etc, etc? What happened is (a big) part of our recent history. I'm not surprised there is so much talk about Gus, to be honest.

I predict there will NEVER be a season when Gus is not mentioned. Spin it whichever way you like, but he has changed the way the club plays football, with a great degree of success. Yes, it might have ended on a sour note, but you can't ignore his role in getting us to the position we are in today. People will talk about the first seasons at the Amex forever and, in turn, part of that talk will be about GP.

I think he was misguided in his post-Palace comments, to say the least. But I also partly forgive him for being a young, relatively inexperienced, manager who clearly has a lot of ambition and says whatever is on his mind at the time, and to hell with the consequences. We'll see if that ambition will ever truly be fulfilled, but I wish him all the best.

 

[Simster]

Not that ridiculous. Bloom was stuck between a rock and a hard place. I assume he knew more than anyone what promotion would offer, and that in a weak division the season was a fantastic opportunity. Against that Gus clearly thought he was bigger then the Club - and there was only one way that was heading. So what to do ?

It looked like his decision might work. But it still seems to me something happened between the away and home legs in the play-off.

Yes, I've since thought that one through and take it back. Not that odd at all.

 

[Acker79]

Does that mean we should not bring up Belotti, Archer, Zamora, Leon Knight, the '83 cup final, etc, etc? What happened is (a big) part of our recent history. I'm not surprised there is so much talk about Gus, to be honest.

I predict there will NEVER be a season when Gus is not mentioned. Spin it whichever way you like, but he has changed the way the club plays football, with a great degree of success. Yes, it might have ended on a sour note, but you can't ignore his role in getting us to the position we are in today. People will talk about the first seasons at the Amex forever and, in turn, part of that talk will be about GP.

I think he was misguided in his post-Palace comments, to say the least. But I also partly forgive him for being a young, relatively inexperienced, manager who clearly has a lot of ambition and says whatever is on his mind at the time, and to hell with the consequences. We'll see if that ambition will ever truly be fulfilled, but I wish him all the best.

McGee, Wilkins, Adams, Murray...

 

[LamieRobertson]

Exactly, he will not be able to let this go without defending himself. I expect the dirty laundry to be washed in public now. Interesting and sad times coming but we have only heard one side of the story so far, and as we all know there are always two sides to a story like this.

exactly...now its known he wanted to leave...people will say it was because of his ambition...but (part of me) would like to hear from poyet himself..was it Barber? its all speculation still

 

[Rookie]

Without a payoff, hence what followed.

But he was in talks to get compo/pay off right until the end (Gus said they were talking right until he got the sack). Very strange situaiton

 

[Mellotron]

Does that mean we should not bring up Belotti, Archer, Zamora, Leon Knight, the '83 cup final, etc, etc? What happened is (a big) part of our recent history. I'm not surprised there is so much talk about Gus, to be honest.

I predict there will NEVER be a season when Gus is not mentioned. Spin it whichever way you like, but he has changed the way the club plays football, with a great degree of success. Yes, it might have ended on a sour note, but you can't ignore his role in getting us to the position we are in today. People will talk about the first seasons at the Amex forever and, in turn, part of that talk will be about GP.

I think he was misguided in his post-Palace comments, to say the least. But I also partly forgive him for being a young, relatively inexperienced, manager who clearly has a lot of ambition and says whatever is on his mind at the time, and to hell with the consequences. We'll see if that ambition will ever truly be fulfilled, but I wish him all the best.

Best post on the thread. The sensible attitude to take.

 

[albionite]

It had nothing to do with Reading.

 

[somerset]

Does that mean we should not bring up Belotti, Archer, Zamora, Leon Knight, the '83 cup final, etc, etc? What happened is (a big) part of our recent history. I'm not surprised there is so much talk about Gus, to be honest.

I predict there will NEVER be a season when Gus is not mentioned. Spin it whichever way you like, but he has changed the way the club plays football, with a great degree of success. Yes, it might have ended on a sour note, but you can't ignore his role in getting us to the position we are in today. People will talk about the first seasons at the Amex forever and, in turn, part of that talk will be about GP.

I think he was misguided in his post-Palace comments, to say the least. But I also partly forgive him for being a young, relatively inexperienced, manager who clearly has a lot of ambition and says whatever is on his mind at the time, and to hell with the consequences. We'll see if that ambition will ever truly be fulfilled, but I wish him all the best.

Nobody will doubt or forget the overall legacy left behind by Gus, but its therapeutic for those of us a little more emotional about these things, that we mull over all the possibilities and actualities,... human nature dictates that we worry,... so here we are, debating the whole thing again, with the added spice that the 'March' revelation has provided.

 

[Albion in the north]

Whatever happens on the pitch this season I am greatly relieved that we now have a manager who is obviously talented, but is also a humble and respectful human being.

I love this comment.

 

[Kumquat]

Does that mean we should not bring up Belotti, Archer, Zamora, Leon Knight, the '83 cup final, etc, etc? What happened is (a big) part of our recent history. I'm not surprised there is so much talk about Gus, to be honest.

I predict there will NEVER be a season when Gus is not mentioned. Spin it whichever way you like, but he has changed the way the club plays football, with a great degree of success. Yes, it might have ended on a sour note, but you can't ignore his role in getting us to the position we are in today. People will talk about the first seasons at the Amex forever and, in turn, part of that talk will be about GP.

I think he was misguided in his post-Palace comments, to say the least. But I also partly forgive him for being a young, relatively inexperienced, manager who clearly has a lot of ambition and says whatever is on his mind at the time, and to hell with the consequences. We'll see if that ambition will ever truly be fulfilled, but I wish him all the best.

Excellent post.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Very interesting timing.

Was Di Canio first choice at Sunderland ? How significant was the level of the compensation in Gus' contract

 

[albionite]

Very interesting timing.

Was Di Canio first choice at Sunderland ? How significant is the level of the compensation

See thunderbolts threads *cough*

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

See thunderbolts threads *cough*

Can you link the post ? I can't trawl NSC on the phone

 

[Biscuit]

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