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Jimbo.GRFC

Banned
Apr 2, 2010
1,378
Again I disagree. I'm not condoning property damage and criminal behaviour but in the scheme of things they are not a danger to society. The spreading of extreme right wing views that lead to racist attacks, the demonisation of other races and cultures, and an acceptance of bigotory, with all the real historical horrors associated with it, is very dangerous.

Think you'll find "YOU" are stuck in the olden days. Myself, I have many friends of different nationalities/colour and religous creed. But above all else what we do have is good humored banter which should play a part in everyone's life.....After all we are all human beings (apart from palace)
 






Jimbo.GRFC

Banned
Apr 2, 2010
1,378
You didn't even need to check the Internet for this one. As I mentioned, May Day protests have been continuing for over a 100 years now. How much more notice do you want?

Silly me. May Day Protest in the month of April. Of course I should have known. Can you let me know when I can expect Christmas this year, given your view of dates I may buy my tree now
 








Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
What does where they come from have to do with the protest?

I'm pretty sure a lot of the 'stop the war' protestors didn't come from London.

What did you mean by "tax dodging parents establishment"?
 




I've asked what you meant and you are avoiding answering. Behaving like a child.
You know who I am? I'm quite pleased to say I don't know who you are.

Well, he's the guy who started this thread nearly 3 hours after the news broke ...Henry Cooper RIP
Not sure if mentioned before but Henry passed away......
Not sure? He never bothered to look, or he would have seen the original thread at or very near the top of the list. Obviously posts stuff here and there oblivious to what others are saying.
 
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Castello

Castello
May 28, 2009
432
Tottenham
Sorry but that's nonsense. There are a lot of very respected people who describe themselves as left wing libertarians, Noam Chomsky being one that springs to mind.

I'd agree with you that these protesters are unlikely to be anarchists in a classical sense but I do suspect that their politics are of a socialist persuasion. The fact that the vast majority of the left are not anti-state doesn't mean that these people aren't. I suspect they'd call themselves anarcho-syndicalists. The cynic in me would describe them otherwise but I don't think there's any doubt these protesters are left wing, claim to be anarchists and the kind of revolutionary changes they are demanding aren't too far removed from the Paris Communards.

Me for another. I don't see a contradiction in believing in both equality and liberty. Indeed i'd argue you cant achieve equality without having civil liberties. Its the liberties i believe in that define my politics. And just to prove you right, my background picture on my pc is the memorial "communards wall" at Pere Lachaise cemetery where many of the communards were slaughtered. Some may call them fools Id call them brave idealists.
 


Seagull on the wing

New member
Sep 22, 2010
7,458
Hailsham
Driving home Saturday up by the uni was a hoodie chained to the lampost...anybody any idea what that was about?.....Cue jokes!
 


Hungry Joe

SINNEN
Oct 22, 2004
7,636
Heading for shore
Think you'll find "YOU" are stuck in the olden days. Myself, I have many friends of different nationalities/colour and religous creed. But above all else what we do have is good humored banter which should play a part in everyone's life.....After all we are all human beings (apart from palace)

And your point is? How is being worried about the rise of the extreme right being "stuck in the old days"?. Are you saying you're a member of the EDL or another far right organisation who happens to have friends of different nationalities/colour and religious creeds? Same as it ever was ("every Nazi knows a good Jew" and all that). So what if you do, that doesn't change the fact that for the most part extremist far right groups support and promote a racist ideology.
 




Hungry Joe

SINNEN
Oct 22, 2004
7,636
Heading for shore
Me for another. I don't see a contradiction in believing in both equality and liberty. Indeed i'd argue you cant achieve equality without having civil liberties. Its the liberties i believe in that define my politics.

Again same for me. The point I was making is that the majority of support for Libertarianism comes from the right wing of the Conservative movement.
 


Acker79

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
What does where they come from have to do with the protest?

I'm pretty sure a lot of the 'stop the war' protestors didn't come from London.

What did you mean by "tax dodging parents establishment"?

I have jimbo on ignore, so don't know the context, but I remember back on some of the protest threads before people mentioned that a lot of the people protesting the companies for not paying tax (Vodafone?) had rich parents who themselves were using their wealth to avoid paying tax. That might explain the 'tax dodging parents' bit, not entirely sure about the 'establishment' bit?
 


bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
Talking of May Day protests, it was a bank holiday introduced by the then Labour Government (Harold Wilson's I think). Now the Coalition (mainly the Tories) want to take this off the calendar and replace it with a bank holiday in October, a bloody good idea IMHO.
 


bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
I have jimbo on ignore, so don't know the context, but I remember back on some of the protest threads before people mentioned that a lot of the people protesting the companies for not paying tax (Vodafone?) had rich parents who themselves were using their wealth to avoid paying tax. That might explain the 'tax dodging parents' bit, not entirely sure about the 'establishment' bit?

Leave Jimbo alone, he's still upset about his cricket bat.
 




Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,238
Living In a Box
So what is the protest about today ?

Having an extra day off ?
 


Tyrone Biggums

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
Sorry chap but you don't need a degree in Politics to see that that is a load of rubbish. Libertarianism is almost exclusively an ideology supported by the far right of the Conservative party. I think you're confusing it with Liberalism. Again, these protesters are not Socialists. The vast majority of those on the left are not anti-state, anti-liberty or anti-property. The kind of reductionist political arguments you're attempting are 6th form at best.

You seem to be a little bit confused mate.

Libertarians aren't anywhere near to far right conservative views.

Libertarians would support gay marriage in the majority, and yet you say they represent the far right of conservative politics? You're way off the mark there.

In fact you seem to be basing what you know of the libertarian movements on the USA, there's many more out there.

The left are just like the right in one regard, they wish to control you by using the state to do so. They want to legislate people into thinking and acting how they do.
 


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