Protesters.

[Hungry Joe]

Anarchists come from the Left though, it's just how it is.

Maybe the Police are slightly biased, but it's the left wing protests that tend to force them into action due to the damaging of private property.

Look at all the G8 summits, always mass disruptions and criminal activities associated with it.

The right wing yobs are never that organised nor as disruptive on such a large scale.

The right are somthing to laugh at, the left are something to worry about.

And the EDL come from the right but that doesn't make the vast majority of Conservatives racists does it? And I disagree, we should be very worried about the extreme right's rise in Europe.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

And the EDL come from the right but that doesn't make the vast majority of Conservatives racists does it? And I disagree, we should be very worried about the extreme right's rise in Europe.

Some would say it does mean they would have slight biases against certain peoples.

But until the right start destroying private property during their protests they will be the lesser of the two evils.

You can ignore a few fat shaved headed twats chanting stupid slogans far easier than you can someone throwing a brick through a window of your work place.

 

[Hungry Joe]

Some would say it does mean they would have slight biases against certain peoples.

But until the right start destroying private property during their protests they will be the lesser of the two evils.

You can ignore a few fat shaved headed twats chanting stupid slogans far easier than you can someone throwing a brick through a window of your work place.

Again I disagree. I'm not condoning property damage and criminal behaviour but in the scheme of things they are not a danger to society. The spreading of extreme right wing views that lead to racist attacks, the demonisation of other races and cultures, and an acceptance of bigotory, with all the real historical horrors associated with it, is very dangerous.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Again I disagree. I'm not condoning property damage and criminal behaviour but in the scheme of things they are not a danger to society. The spreading of extreme right wing views that lead to racist attacks, the demonisation of other races and cultures, and an acceptance of bigotory, with all the real historical horrors associated with it, is very dangerous.

You realise it's the left that causes a lot of this festering of resentment amongst the native populations?

When you have people trying to dictate to others what they can and can't say or do you can turn mild, disinterested people into what you suggest is spreading.

Take something simple as the childrens rhyme "Baa baa black sheep".

The left moaned it's racist, the left get tried to have it banned.

The average person is bemused by this. However all of a sudden the resentment towards what is rightly or wrongly percieved as the outside influences meddling in something people have always held an affection for gets them slighlty miffed.

From such instances the seed is sown and it grows a little bit more each time they see someone challenge something they feel is harmless until they reach a point of where they start outwardly voicing their diasaproval.

The more the left rise up the more right wingers it will create.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Point of order - please don't use 'the Left' as a term to describe anarchists as this is offensive to the majority of moderate people with left wing views who find most of these people as nauseating as everyone else. Another reason is many police officers have more sympathy with extreme right wing causes, not all of them by a long way but there is still a core of racism and bigotry in the police force.

Agreed this is nothing to do with left and right wings. The reason EDL get an easier time from the police is that they agree the route with the police and don't cover their faces. They then stick to the agreed route without breaking out into small groups. Just to make clear - I don't agree or condone EDLs beliefs. The idiots yesterday, and even more so the scum that are Smash EDO, NEVER discuss their plans with the police thus causing untold disruption to the people of this city and extra unnecessary policing costs ( for which you and I pick up the tab ). They also constantly cover their faces and often carry weapons such as golf clubs. They also smash up perfectly legal businesses including a local cafe. EDL may well be racist bigots but Smash EDO et al are parasites that need a really good kicking from the police. If the police can't or won't do it then let the army do it.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Were they impromptu protests? Or were they planned in advance?

May Day protests have been running for over a 100 years. They would not have come as a surprise.

 

[Hungry Joe]

You realise it's the left that causes a lot of this festering of resentment amongst the native populations?

When you have people trying to dictate to others what they can and can't say or do you can turn mild, disinterested people into what you suggest is spreading.

Take something simple as the childrens rhyme "Baa baa black sheep".

The left moaned it's racist, the left get tried to have it banned.

The average person is bemused by this. However all of a sudden the resentment towards what is rightly or wrongly percieved as the outside influences meddling in something people have always held an affection for gets them slighlty miffed.

From such instances the seed is sown and it grows a little bit more each time they see someone challenge something they feel is harmless until they reach a point of where they start outwardly voicing their diasaproval.

The more the left rise up the more right wingers it will create.

Again, stop with 'the Left' stuff, you're wrong. The people you are talking about are a TINY minority who have been given an amount of exposure they don't deserve by the Red Tops to sell papers and whip up anti-pc fervour. As a result a lot of impressionable people have bought into the lie that there is some kind of pc conspiracy threatening our free nation. This is patently bollocks. It's like all the Elf and Safety myths that become part of the conventional wisdom. Mostly they are lies or half truths pedalled or blwon out of all proportion by those with an alternative agenda. Don't buy into it mate, I've heard more ignorant crap spouted in the pubs and staff rooms in recent years than in my whole life - and that's what worries me.

 

[beorhthelm]

It does seem that these people don't have the wherewithal to make anything of themselves and therefore feel that the best way forward is to bring everybody down to their level. As has already been said, they say 'Smash the state' but who will pay their benefits if that happened ?

during the TUC march, the "anarchists" were alongside Uncut, calling for companies to pay their taxes. as one commentator put, thats really not the point of anarchism. for me it show them up as kids or intellectually immature adult who dont understnd what they are for or against politically. its a phase they usually grow out of.

 

[daveinprague]

If you discuss EDL without sparkly disco shorts and simsters permission they will get weally, weally kwoss. Get clearance before proceeding further. I always considered anarchists to be against government and state, so neither left or right

 

[Jimbo.GRFC]

Were they impromptu protests? Or were they planned in advance?

Oh no no no, you should check the internet as I was previously told to do, and somewhere just somewhere you may find out about their plans. I've simply had enough of their crap...go protest somewhere else like Portsmouth for example, you'll last no more than 2 minutes. The previous post about the Saturday shop workers experience sickens me to the core. Barrel of Fun its over to you to explain the merits of that type of behavior !!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Oh no no no, you should check the internet as I was previously told to do, and somewhere just somewhere you may find out about their plans. I've simply had enough of their crap...go protest somewhere else like Portsmouth for example, you'll last no more than 2 minutes. The previous post about the Saturday shop workers experience sickens me to the core. Barrel of Fun its over to you to explain the merits of that type of behavior !!

You didn't even need to check the Internet for this one. As I mentioned, May Day protests have been continuing for over a 100 years now. How much more notice do you want?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Again, stop with 'the Left' stuff, you're wrong. The people you are talking about are a TINY minority who have been given an amount of exposure they don't deserve by the Red Tops to sell papers and whip up anti-pc fervour. As a result a lot of impressionable people have bought into the lie that there is some kind of pc conspiracy threatening our free nation. This is patently bollocks. It's like all the Elf and Safety myths that become part of the conventional wisdom. Mostly they are lies or half truths pedalled or blwon out of all proportion by those with an alternative agenda. Don't buy into it mate, I've heard more ignorant crap spouted in the pubs and staff rooms in recent years than in my whole life - and that's what worries me.

I don't buy into anything.

I come from a political point of view(Libertarian) that means I can see both sides of the spectrum trying to boss others around.

Without a doubt though it's the socialists that pose the greatest threat to my individual rights and liberties because they try to impose their views onto society with far more vigour.

 

[Jimbo.GRFC]

you didn't even need to check the internet for this one. As i mentioned, may day protests have been continuing for over a 100 years now. How much more notice do you want?

but it was staged in april

 

[Hungry Joe]

I don't buy into anything.

I come from a political point of view(Libertarian) that means I can see both sides of the spectrum trying to boss others around.

Without a doubt though it's the socialists that pose the greatest threat to my individual rights and liberties because they try to impose their views onto society with far more vigour.

Sorry chap but you don't need a degree in Politics to see that that is a load of rubbish. Libertarianism is almost exclusively an ideology supported by the far right of the Conservative party. I think you're confusing it with Liberalism. Again, these protesters are not Socialists. The vast majority of those on the left are not anti-state, anti-liberty or anti-property. The kind of reductionist political arguments you're attempting are 6th form at best.

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

I'm sure yesterday was 30th of April?
I fully expect the smellys that want to"smash the state" will be collecting their benefits from the state as usual this week.

 

[Acker79]

May Day protests have been running for over a 100 years. They would not have come as a surprise.

So, anyone with plans to get across the city should have expected delays and planned accordingly?

 

[Husty]

So, anyone with plans to get across the city should have expected delays and planned accordingly?

Yes?

 

[Hungry Joe]

And as Libertarians have now been thrown into the mix; the Libertarians in the Young Conservatives campaign for the legalisation of all drugs, Heroin included. I think they've got more in common with the Anarchists that most on the left will ever have.

 

[Acker79]

Yes?

This thread was started by someone complaining that the protesters made him miss the guard of honour. Surely it's his own fault for poor planning?

 

[patchamalbion]

damn i had planned to go shopping today as well

sod it i want some new clothes,if these crusty smelly gits attack me i'll windmill the fuckers