[Football] Norwich - what’s the point?

[Neville's Breakfast]

Delia Smith bought into Norwich when they were skint and on the way to going bust. She saved the Club then there is no doubt about it but she has been paid that £1m loan back. She didn't write it off.

Since then she has drawn Millions in Salaries. Both her and her husband. She also opened her own restaurant within the ground which on match days alone are bursting to the brim. Not sure whether it opens on non match days.

So credit to her for financially saving the club when it needed but she has milked the " Gravy Train " since then. Her nephews I think also get paid handsomely from the club in jobs specially created for them.

It's their club and they are entitled to run it how they want but they are never gonna make a real fist of surviving in the PL for any length of time whilst they just see it as a personal money making excercise for the family.

I think that is an extremely unfair take on Delia and Norwich. Norwich fans would rather have Delia than the likes of Chansiri or many others. I understand CH departed the club in unhappy fashion but that is all part of the risks of a career in football management. He will also have been well rewarded. I’m not sure it’s right to be so selective in who you accuse of being on ‘the gravy train.’

 

[amexer]

Do you really think non playing staff are getting paid way above the going rate for their job they do ?
Or is there a specific non playing role you mean ?
If the non playing costs are high I would imagine it’s more likely to be the incremental increase in positions to be filled
Associated with being in the PL as well as at the academy

Of course I dont I know non playing staff. wages However last I heard was £75m playing staff.. If we have an income of £120/140m and 0 transfer cost where else can money go. Could be wrong but heard Barber was on £1.5m in which case think it is mad. He has no imput to the £100m plus TV income or £20/25m match day. Last figures I saw for for PL clubs corporate income we were behind Palace

 

[NooBHA]

I think that is an extremely unfair take on Delia and Norwich. Norwich fans would rather have Delia than the likes of Chansiri or many others. I understand CH departed the club in unhappy fashion but that is all part of the risks of a career in football management. He will also have been well rewarded. I’m not sure it’s right to be so selective in who you accuse of being on ‘the gravy train.’

My post has absolutely nothing to do with CH. I am responding to the OP - I posted nothing which wasn't factual.

 

[A1X]

Yebbut imagine if they hadn't sold him, Villa fans would have been all over Twitter indignant that a team like Norwich would dare dream that a massive team like Villa could be seen as in any way candidates for relegation, they'd be making up mugs and tea towels with #FreeEmiBuendía on them and claiming that he'll never be a decent player if he's not coached by a world class managerial talent like Dean Smith. You can see why they wouldn't want the hassle.

 

[NooBHA]

Clib owners run a club sustainably, keep it in or near the top division - and make a profit - Shock, Horror! The FA or EPL should do something - football can't be allowed to carry on like this!

My response pertained to the question asked by the OP. - I don't say that what they are doing is wrong. It's their Club and they can run it how they like.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

My post has absolutely nothing to do with CH. I am responding to the OP - I posted nothing which wasn't factual.

Fair enough. Choice of facts used and context is important though when understanding someone’s point of view.

 

[NooBHA]

Fair enough. Choice of facts used and context is important though when understanding someone’s point of view.

I thought it was balanced in that I also gave them credit for saving the club in its darkest moments.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Possibly, but £30m for Murray would have plainly been ridiculous. Norwich selling their best player, having just got promoted, seems bizarre. Are they really just in it for the parachute payments?

Seems that way. Their goal is to be a top 26 team, prob feel 30m is too much to turn down and if they go down they are too good for that league.

 

[British Bulldog]

I guess we could wait to the end of the transfer window before judging teams transfer business? or is that too radical?

 

[maresfield seagull]

I guess we could wait to the end of the transfer window before judging teams transfer business? or is that too radical?

On NSC that’s Far too rational an approach
But I concur completely

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Possibly, but £30m for Murray would have plainly been ridiculous. Norwich selling their best player, having just got promoted, seems bizarre. Are they really just in it for the parachute payments?

I’m not sure we know enough to make that judgement. Buendia was also their best player when Norwich were last in the PL. He stayed for a season in the Championship so it is possible this transfer is payback for loyalty.

 

[b.w.2.]

Doubt you’ll be saying that when we don’t spend much, if anything on a striker and sell Bissouma and White

It COULD happen and who would blame TB if he used the money to offset losses?

GP is good enough to make do imo, although I know many disagree.

As an aside why do you feel the need to be plain rude in posts?

Just an opinion. One you obviously disagree with. Tough.


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[Springal]

Shows what a joke PL wages are. If we have an income of £120/140m , £0 transfer spend and still need to borrow £37m something is mighty wrong. Players earning a fortune but by those figures many non playing staff also on the gravy train

We didn’t have £0 transfer spend, as we were still writing down Ali J, Locadia etc etc

 

[chaileyjem]

Last figures I saw for for PL clubs corporate income we were behind Palace

Well it depends - Albion are ahead in terms of matchday income and corporate income (sponsorship etc)
see: http://priceoffootball.com/brighton-2019-20-reel-around-the-fountain/

 

[chaileyjem]

We didn’t have £0 transfer spend, as we were still writing down Ali J, Locadia etc etc

We also spent a decent amount on Moder, Veltman, and Karbownik last summer so not sure where this £0 transfer fee idea is coming from.

 

[JBizzle]

We also spent a decent amount on Moder, Veltman, and Karbownik last summer so not sure where this £0 transfer fee idea is coming from.

Well quite. Haven't we spent £200m since promotion? Just because we haven't spent over £30m on one player, doesn't mean we haven't spent money. Webster (20m), Trossard (18m), Maupay (14m) etc etc

 

[Mr Putdown]

My post has absolutely nothing to do with CH. I am responding to the OP - I posted nothing which wasn't factual.

You posted that Delia Smith has drawn millions in salary from the club, I’m not sure that’s factual.

 

[chaileyjem]

Delia Smith bought into Norwich when they were skint and on the way to going bust. She saved the Club then there is no doubt about it but she has been paid that £1m loan back. She didn't write it off.

Since then she has drawn Millions in Salaries. Both her and her husband. She also opened her own restaurant within the ground which on match days alone are bursting to the brim. Not sure whether it opens on non match days.

So credit to her for financially saving the club when it needed but she has milked the " Gravy Train " since then. Her nephews I think also get paid handsomely from the club in jobs specially created for them.

It's their club and they are entitled to run it how they want but they are never gonna make a real fist of surviving in the PL for any length of time whilst they just see it as a personal money making excercise for the family.

For a very detailed look at Norwich's accounts then recommend this Twitter thread >> https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1325700498868105219
FWIW - No Director at Norwich was paid last season. (their relegation season).

 

[NooBHA]

You posted that Delia Smith has drawn millions in salary from the club, I’m not sure that’s factual.

Over the course of almost 20 years of being there - I would put money on the fact that she has

 

[drew]

We didn’t have £0 transfer spend, as we were still writing down Ali J, Locadia etc etc

I think our net spend lat the start of the 20/21 season was about £6m. Not sure where the £0 comes from!!!