Murder enquiry after fan killed at Wembley

[The Laughing Bluebird]

Really sad to read about all this, but personally, I don't care what nationality the perpetrator is........just so long as he/she is apprehended and brought to justice. Whover it is, is a thug...not a football fan.

My sentiments entirely. The speculation on message boards is understandable, especially as the six Welsh fans were arrested in connection with the incident (although it has since emerged that they were not involved in any way). But what is unforgiveable is the way in which a couple of the tabloids reported this incident. A couple of them reported as fact that Swansea City fans were involved when there was no evidence whatsoever to suggest that and the police had clearly stated that inter-club rivalry was not believed to have been a factor.

A wreath from the Swansea City Supporters Travel Club is amongst the many tributes that have been left for Mikey outside the old Ninian Park gates.

 

[chimneys]

Sorry to hear the news Dave. It's further proof that banter and taking the piss out of opponents are one thing, but violence is unacceptable. Although some of the bellends on here would of course defend it, and would never 'grass' on an England fan who instigated the attack.

So it was an England fan! Could you just send me the link as to where said fan has been tried in a court of law and sentenced as I seem to have missed it!

Bottom line, shall we let those who knew him mourn Mike, leave the guesswork as to the nationality of the perpetrator out of it and wait for the police to do their job??!

 

[Lord Bamber]

So it was an England fan! Could you just send me the link as to where said fan has been tried in a court of law and sentenced as I seem to have missed it!

Bottom line, shall we let those who knew him mourn Mike, leave the guesswork as to the nationality of the perpetrator out of it and wait for the police to do their job??!

What he says.

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

Sorry to hear the news Dave. It's further proof that banter and taking the piss out of opponents are one thing, but violence is unacceptable.

I don't want to speculate too much as we've been told by the police that they are likely to have some more news for us today, but all the indications are that there was no kind of build-up to the attack at all. It seems increasingly likely to have been a random act of violence.

 

[El Presidente]

So it was an England fan! Could you just send me the link as to where said fan has been tried in a court of law and sentenced as I seem to have missed it!

Bottom line, shall we let those who knew him mourn Mike, leave the guesswork as to the nationality of the perpetrator out of it and wait for the police to do their job??!

Fair comment. I should have said that there will be some who say that no one should grass on the perpetrator, irrespective of nationality.

As for waiting for the police to do their job, this is NSC, we are judge, jury and executioner on EVERYTHING.

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

Latest BBC Report:

BBC News - Michael Dye murder: Wembley fans CCTV image issued

So much for CCTV. I hope the authorities have got some better images than this.

 

[JCL]

… Lock them up for life. Simple.

Waste of tax payers money…. bring back the ultimate penalty...

 

[Driver8]

Waste of tax payers money…. bring back the ultimate penalty...

I agree. Make them watch every England game for the rest of their lives.

 

[El Presidente]

I agree. Make them watch every England game for the rest of their lives.

............and Palace too.

 

[Driver8]

............and Palace too.

That would contravene their human rights.

 

[Southern Scouse]

Tragic situation. How can any one life be worth a rivalry, even when supporting your own country? I am no saint. In the mid-seventies I was always in trouble at BHA games. Arrested all over Ipswich, Leicester, Southampton, Villa etc, etc. never used weapons, never ganged up 6 on 1, just a few handbags, occasional 5 minute scrap. It was a part of football at that time.
Then as many of you older fans will remember it was about collecting trophies, usually opposing colours. My last involvement, when I sneaked away was when I saw a group of BHA fans attack a west ham pensioner and his granddaughter to get his scarf. I have never been so embarrassed to be a BHA fan, that was the last time I ever got involved.
I was also at Heysal when the Juventus fans were killed, a combination of football hooligans, poor policing and abysmal stadium.
So much tragedy, so much hatred in the so called beautiful game.
RIP.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Fair comment. I should have said that there will be some who say that no one should grass on the perpetrator, irrespective of nationality.

As for waiting for the police to do their job, this is NSC, we are judge, jury and executioner on EVERYTHING.

maybe you are

 

[Paddy B]

Just seen your reply TLB and given that you appear to have further knowledge than has been releases in the media then your comments are fair enough. Sincere condolences for your loss. It's well beyond the time for some perspective now rather than speculation into a tragic case. RIP

 

[chimneys]

Have just spotted this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14864890

 

[Gus is god]

Have just spotted this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14864890

He has been charged BBC News - Michael Dye death: Man charged with manslaughter

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

Just seen your reply TLB and given that you appear to have further knowledge than has been releases in the media then your comments are fair enough. Sincere condolences for your loss. It's well beyond the time for some perspective now rather than speculation into a tragic case. RIP

Thanks Paddy.

More details emerged yesterday. It seems that five of the six Welsh fans originally arrested are now considered key witnesses, while the other Welsh fan arrested was simply a case of mistaken identity (he was incorrectly identified by the police on the night from the CCTV footage, and had in fact been nowhere near the incident).

I understand the attacker who is now in custody effectively surrendered himself to the police after one of the other fans who had been with him at Wembley approached the authorities with information. I won't mention which club he supports as it's largely irrelevant, except to say it has been confirmed to me that it definitely isn't a Welsh club.

The police stated on the night that there was no evidence to suggest this incident had anything to do with inter-club rivalry - a fact which made the press coverage all the more deplorable. The Sun and Daily Mail reports were an absolute disgrace, while I was personally misquoted in a Daily Mirror report which suggested Mikey was killed during a fight with Swansea City fans. The paper claimed I had stated he suffered head injuries in scuffles and later collapsed from a heart attack. I had in fact said absolutely nothing of the sort to the reporter who contacted me. The newspaper also lifted a photo of Mike and I from my Facebook account without asking for permission to do so.

Yesterday was a tough one but a lot of money was raised for Mikey's family in order to help with the funeral expenses, while the tributes from the club and the Welsh FA were spot on.

 

[Samej]

Puts things into perspective. What a waste. Surely these muppets looking to cause trouble at matches should have a look at themselves.

They were welsh they do not know any better

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

They were welsh they do not know any better

They say ignorance is bliss. You must live in a state of constant euphoria.

 

[Hillian1]

They were welsh they do not know any better

Of all the stupid comments I've ever read on NSC this one is right up there with the worst.

I hope you are proud of it.

 

[SuperFurrySeagull]

They were welsh they do not know any better

Stupid & unhelpful.