Minute's applause for Mandela ?

[Buzzer]

Churchill was rather keen on fascism in the 1920s.

Are you really trying to besmirch Churchill's reputation by citing his early support for a political regime that he later declared war on and finally saw for the evil it was? Are you equally as damning of the Fabian Society and specifically the Webbs and George Bernard Shaw for their unqualified support of Stalin's atrocities? What about that darling of the Left, Tony Benn and his comments in the visitors' book at the Soviet Embassy "Thanks For Everything". Nice one Tony. Tell that to the Chechnyans, the Cossacks, the Jews, the Poles.......

I think that as with Churchill and Guevera, Mandela's political views changed dramatically both with his experiences and maturity but also the way the world was changing. It's credit to them all that they turned their backs on support for various morally corrupt political systems in support of more democratic ones. And I admire them all for that.

 

[T soprano]

What about Pele?

Yeah and him and Osvaldo Ardilas Kevin Beatie & John Wark ....oh yeah and that Yank goalkeeper

 

[T soprano]

Forgot about Mike summerbee

 

[Chicken Runner61]

Churchill was a prisoner too - In South Africa funnily enough

 

[Buzzer]

£25 reward dead or alive, no less.

 

[jakarta]

Are you really trying to besmirch Churchill's reputation by citing his early support for a political regime that he later declared war on and finally saw for the evil it was? Are you equally as damning of the Fabian Society and specifically the Webbs and George Bernard Shaw for their unqualified support of Stalin's atrocities? What about that darling of the Left, Tony Benn and his comments in the visitors' book at the Soviet Embassy "Thanks For Everything". Nice one Tony. Tell that to the Chechnyans, the Cossacks, the Jews, the Poles.......

I think that as with Churchill and Guevera, Mandela's political views changed dramatically both with his experiences and maturity but also the way the world was changing. It's credit to them all that they turned their backs on support for various morally corrupt political systems in support of more democratic ones. And I admire them all for that.

Thank you - this has saved me a long and convoluted post. While Mandela had a country to turn around Churchill was Prime Minister when the whole World could well have slipped over the abyss. But hey he was a Tory so abuse away.....

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Are you really trying to besmirch Churchill's reputation by citing his early support for a political regime that he later declared war on and finally saw for the evil it was? Are you equally as damning of the Fabian Society and specifically the Webbs and George Bernard Shaw for their unqualified support of Stalin's atrocities? What about that darling of the Left, Tony Benn and his comments in the visitors' book at the Soviet Embassy "Thanks For Everything". Nice one Tony. Tell that to the Chechnyans, the Cossacks, the Jews, the Poles.......

I think that as with Churchill and Guevera, Mandela's political views changed dramatically both with his experiences and maturity but also the way the world was changing. It's credit to them all that they turned their backs on support for various morally corrupt political systems in support of more democratic ones. And I admire them all for that.

Post of the day.

 

[Dr. Notthenineo'clocknews]

Forgot about Mike summerbee

I think the little Irish lad was Kevin O'Callahan, played for Shamrock Rovers, he never gets remembered, 1944 was a long time ago mind

 

[The Fifth Column]

I simply can't join in with this poxy Mandela love in, he's had no real effect on my life and people seem to be falling over themselves as to who can respect and love the man most. I get it that he achieved some great deeds but he was a politician ffs and like every single politician in every single country in the world he had his hand in his nations pockets and made a very tidy living for himself and his cronies. I don't see his family living on the dusty streets of Soweto with the millions of other south Africans, no its nice big mansions in exclusive communities for them. The poor boy from Soweto did ok for himself out this politics lark.

 

[lawros left foot]

Winnie wasn't black Seagull.....

Yes she was

 

[lawros left foot]

I simply can't join in with this poxy Mandela love in, he's had no real effect on my life and people seem to be falling over themselves as to who can respect and love the man most. I get it that he achieved some great deeds but he was a politician ffs and like every single politician in every single country in the world he had his hand in his nations pockets and made a very tidy living for himself and his cronies. I don't see his family living on the dusty streets of Soweto with the millions of other south Africans, no its nice big mansions in exclusive communities for them. The poor boy from Soweto did ok for himself out this politics lark.

I suppose, that probably stopping what could have been race war in SA, while living in a shanty town, would have tested even him, and living in a prison doing hard labour for 27 years,wasnt much of a jolly either.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Celtic fans tribute.

 

[Creaky]

I suppose, that probably stopping what could have been race war in SA, while living in a shanty town, would have tested even him, and living in a prison doing hard labour for 27 years,wasnt much of a jolly either.

His work towards universal elections also resulted in the dismantling of South Africa's nuclear deterrent.

I think one of the best illustrations of how remarkable the transition to majority rule was in South Africa, much of it down to Nelson Mandela, is to compare it to the results in Rhodesia following that country's move from white rule.

 

[Gazwag]

WHY ........nothing to do with football NOT EVEN THIS COUNTRY
regards
DR

Didn't Winnie call her gang of thugs Manchester United or something like that. Just a memory I have, might be completely wrong.

 

[pipkin112]

Didn't Winnie call her gang of thugs Manchester United or something like that. Just a memory I have, might be completely wrong.

I think they were called Mandela United Football Club.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

I think they were called Mandela United Football Club.

Specialising in the "necklacing" method of murder.

 

[The Spanish]

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/rip-nelson-mandela-his-life-through-a-football-lens-pictures/

Embrace it. I'm not one for agreeing with every silence and applause for every missing child or death but jesus we've just lost one of the most important people on the planet. If you can't be arsed to put two hands together and make a noise for someone who put half of his life into fighting for freedom then fine. Quit whinging about it though.

nonsense

 

[The Spanish]

It really isn't a big deal. Just do what you fell is appropriate. If you don't want to clap then fine. No one is forcing you.nI feel it's a very personal thing and I do what I see fit-Queen Mum died I sang 4-1 and No Queen Mum at Colchester, Thatcher died it was champagne, Mandela will be dignified silence. Simple.

then do it at home - not at a football match where its being proposed by a body. no one is forcing you and its personal hahahahaha i cant believe you posted that in this context. thats scary.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Applaud or not. Is it a great inconveniece either way ? No.

It is not an inconvenience at all US. But it is a fair discussion topic as it does seem that we have more minutes of applause/silence than ever before. Maybe the definition gives us some guidance - if a minutes silence seems appropriate then go ahead, if applause is more fitting then maybe it is not relevant to the crowd gathered?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

It was trendy for celebs to have a photo with Nelson and be known to "support" him.

Lech Walesa and Aung San Suu Kyi are every bit as worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as Mandela but they never will because they aren't as trendy with the celebs and media.