Minute's applause for Mandela ?

[The Spanish]

It is not an inconvenience at all US. But it is a fair discussion topic as it does seem that we have more minutes of applause/silence than ever before. Maybe the definition gives us some guidance - if a minutes silence seems appropriate then go ahead, if applause is more fitting then maybe it is not relevant to the crowd gathered?

i cant really keep up with all this applause/silence business

 

[Icy Gull]

Is this actually going ahead then? Whilst I totally get the minutes silence for the soldier who was an Albion fan, I am struggling to see the relevance of Mandela getting applause/ silence at a football match. Maybe at an England game but not at football stadiums around the country on a league day.

 

[The Spanish]

Is this actually going ahead then? Whilst I totally get the minutes silence for the soldier who was an Albion fan, I am struggling to see the relevance of Mandela getting applause/ silence at a football match. Maybe at an England game but not at football stadiums around the country on a league day.

spot on - this is dangerously close to religion at the moment

 

[The Truth]

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s terrorists.

Mandela was married three times, Winnie was his second wife and they did not spend all that much time together - he was imprisoned for most of their married life. His last (and current) wife, Graca Machel, was first married to Samora Machel, the president of Mozambique who died in a suspicious plane crash in the '80s.

'Nelson Mandela is The white man’s favourite politician. Although originally a freedom fighter to liberate South Africa from the clutches of European savagery and oppression, he ended up in bed with the Mothers of Apartheid. To show their gratitude, White Europeans, who originally branded him a terrorist, have turned him into a pop star and a demigod through propaganda.''
- M Rafic Soormally

 

[Icy Gull]

spot on - this is dangerously close to religion at the moment

Exactly, it would be more fitting to have the silence/applause for every Albion fan who had died IMO. This would of course probably be an every match occurrence though so would lose the relevance very quickly to all except those directly affected.

 

[blue2]

As a mark of respect and to show support for always trying to improve race relations I think we should have a minutes applause

 

[Return of the Rev]

Should be on 27 minutes

 

[Icy Gull]

Maybe we can also dedicate the win today to Nelson, if Leicester win then they can do the same, a draw would be a problem though

 

[The Truth]

Paul Samrah should do a half time speech for Mandela.

 

[MattBackHome]

Maybe we can also dedicate the win today to Nelson, if Leicester win then they can do the same, a draw would be a problem though

The draw could be dedicated to the ongoing unconditional harmony between white and black in the perfect utopia that is South Africa today.

 

[Prettyboyshaw]

The FA are currently considering my request for ground wide two minutes silence for my dead cat tibbles, it is down to the final two between Tibbles and a dead budgie from Guernsey.

 

[The Truth]

Nelson Mandela pies in memory would be a good gesture from the club at half time.

 

[The Fifth Column]

I'm considering 'blacking up' and wearing a loud shirt to show my love for old Nelson, people may take it the wrong way though?

 

[KZNSeagull]

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s terrorists.

Mandela was married three times, Winnie was his second wife and they did not spend all that much time together - he was imprisoned for most of their married life. His last (and current) wife, Graca Machel, was first married to Samora Machel, the president of Mozambique who died in a suspicious plane crash in the '80s.

'Nelson Mandela is The white man’s favourite politician. Although originally a freedom fighter to liberate South Africa from the clutches of European savagery and oppression, he ended up in bed with the Mothers of Apartheid. To show their gratitude, White Europeans, who originally branded him a terrorist, have turned him into a pop star and a demigod through propaganda.''
- M Rafic Soormally

Paul Samrah should do a half time speech for Mandela.

Nelson Mandela pies in memory would be a good gesture from the club at half time.

"Tonight I am reaching out to every single South African, black and white, from the very depths of my being.A white man, full of prejudice and hate, came to our country and committed a deed so foul that our whole nation now teeters on the brink of disaster.
A white woman, of Afrikaner origin, risked her life so that we may know, and bring to justice, this assassin.
The cold-blooded murder of Chris Hani has sent shock waves throughout the country and the world. Our grief and anger is tearing us apart.
What has happened is a national tragedy that has touched millions of people, across the political and colour divide.
Our shared grief and legitimate anger will find expression in nationwide commemorations that coincide with the funeral service.
Tomorrow, in many towns and villages, there will be memorial services to pay homage to one of the greatest revolutionaries this country has ever known.
Every service will open a Memorial Book for Freedom, in which all who want peace and democracy pledge their commitment.
Now is the time for all South Africans to stand together against those who, from any quarter, wish to destroy what Chris Hani gave his life for - the freedom of all of us.
Now is the time for our white compatriots, from whom messages of condolence continue to pour in, to reach out with an understanding of the grievous loss to our nation, to join in the memorial services and the funeral commemorations.
Now is the time for the police to act with sensitivity and restraint, to be real community policemen and women who serve the population as a whole. There must be no further loss of life at this tragic time.
This is a watershed moment for all of us.
Our decisions and actions will determine whether we use our pain, our grief and our outrage to move forward to what is the only lasting solution for our country - an elected government of the people, by the people and for the people.
We must not let the men who worship war, and who lust after blood, precipitate actions that will plunge our country into another Angola.
Chris Hani was a soldier. He believed in iron discipline. He carried out instructions to the letter. He practised what he preached.
Any lack of discipline is trampling on the values that Chris Hani stood for. Those who commit such acts serve only the interests of the assassins, and desecrate his memory.
When we, as one people, act together decisively, with discipline and determination, nothing can stop us.
Let us honour this soldier for peace in a fitting manner. Let us rededicate ourselves to bringing about the democracy he fought for all his life;democracy that will bring real, tangible changes in the lives of the working people, the poor, the jobless, the landless.
Chris Hani is irreplaceable in the heart of our nation and people.
When he first returned to South Africa after three decades in exile, he said: "I have lived with death most of my life. I want to live in a free South Africa even if I have to lay down my life for it".
The body of Chris Hani will lie in State at the FNB Stadium, Soweto, from 12 noon on Sunday 18 April until the start of the vigil at 6pm. The funeral service will commence at 9am on Monday, 19th April. The cortege will leave for Boksburg Cemetery, where the burial is scheduled for 1pm.
These funeral service and rallies must be conducted with dignity.
We will give disciplined expression to our emotions at our pickets, prayer meetings and gatherings, in our homes, our churches and our schools. We will not be provoked into any rash actions.
We are a nation in mourning.
To the youth of South Africa we have a special message: you have lost a great hero. You have repeatedly shown that your love of freedom is greater than that most precious gift, life itself. But you are the leaders of tomorrow. Your country, your people, your organisation need you to act with wisdom. A particular responsibility rests on your shoulders.
We pay tribute to all our people for the courage and restraint they have shown in the face of such extreme provocation. We are sure this same indomitable spirit will carry us through the difficult days ahead.
Chris Hani has made the supreme sacrifice. The greatest tribute we can pay to his life's work is to ensure we win that freedom for all our people."

 

[Beach Hut]

Hopefully Dick will do a speech and presentation at half-time to mark this occasion.

 

[Machiavelli]

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s terrorists.

Mandela was married three times, Winnie was his second wife and they did not spend all that much time together - he was imprisoned for most of their married life. His last (and current) wife, Graca Machel, was first married to Samora Machel, the president of Mozambique who died in a suspicious plane crash in the '80s.

'Nelson Mandela is The white man’s favourite politician. Although originally a freedom fighter to liberate South Africa from the clutches of European savagery and oppression, he ended up in bed with the Mothers of Apartheid. To show their gratitude, White Europeans, who originally branded him a terrorist, have turned him into a pop star and a demigod through propaganda.''
- M Rafic Soormally

You're highly selective in your version of 'the truth' and, in this instance, deeply unpleasant. You write: "Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s terrorists." Have you stopped to think how many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by the apartheid regime's 'terrorists'? Such a consideration wouldn't feature in your version of 'the truth', no doubt, so it is incumbent on others to point this out.

 

[Machiavelli]

spot on - this is dangerously close to religion at the moment

No it's not. It's merely seeking to respect one of the greatest political figures of the past century. I don't recall NSC kicking off when the soldier that was an Albion fan died. So is it only Albion fans that deserve our respect? Is that our religion?

 

[Return of the Rev]

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s terrorists.


APPLAUSE OR NO SURRENDER I'M CONFUSED

 

[Hamilton]

I'll be in the Lord Nelson raising a pint to him and I'll clap for a minute quite happily.

This is a bloke that was prepared to die for something we all take for granted today. He was also instrumental in ensuring that South Africa didn't implode in violence after the end of apartheid.

 

[Ravids]

No it's not. It's merely seeking to respect one of the greatest political figures of the past century. I don't recall NSC kicking off when the soldier that was an Albion fan died. So is it only Albion fans that deserve our respect? Is that our religion?

Football shouldn't mix with politics.

It will be an absolute joke if there is a minute's applause today, what is the world coming to, pathetic.