Minute's applause for Mandela ?

[papajaff]

Thankfully we have a choice on the matter. I'll be avoiding it though.

 

[LAMBRETTA MAN]

Thankfully we have a choice on the matter. I'll be avoiding it though.

Same as.....no thanks, not for me this one.....

 

[The Spanish]

If you think that, then have a read of this:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/nelson-mandela-dead-football-shouldnt-2010650

Whether you like it or not, football is a part of the world we live in.

that doesnt mean a thing. footballs part of the world we live in. so is fishing or darts. only football fans genuinely believe its culturally vital. a lot of the world couldnt give a ****.

 

[The Spanish]

What a jumble! You can't make up your mind whether people 'like that sort of thing' or whether it's 'undemocratic' and there is 'moral pressure on people to go along with it.'

You also seem unsure whether the 'only reflection on show at times like this is people wondering how they look' or whether the effect of it really is 'religious'.

Make up your mind!

you are trying too hard. nothing in there is contradictory.

 

[pipkin112]

Whether you like it or not, football is a part of the world we live in.

So is shopping at Tesco, but they didn't have a minutes applause in there this morning.

 

[Beach Hut]

Same as.....no thanks, not for me this one.....

I am pretty much out of this as well, are we to do this every time and ex USA President dies ?

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

you are trying too hard. nothing in there is contradictory.

Not really trying too hard. Your contradictions stick out like a sore thumb. And yet you can't see them!

 

[Albumen]

I am pretty much out of this as well, are we to do this every time and ex USA President dies ?

Not in the same ballpark.

 

[LAMBRETTA MAN]

To be honest , alive or dead i dont give a shit.....

 

[LamieRobertson]

Not in the same ballpark.

quite

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

So is shopping at Tesco, but they didn't have a minutes applause in there this morning.

They didn't?

I think they'd need to master a two minute's silence on Rememberance Day first...
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/other_s...silence-another-supermarket-rant/AllOnOnePage

 

[Meade's Ball]

I'll be applauding. Happy to pay a little respect for a moment for someone i deem worthy of it. It doesn't matter if i am somewhere supposedly to shout hateful chants at people for a couple of hours. I am not sure where i should be to feel that bowing my head in honour of a legend for a minute fits in, so today's match seems ok enough of a place to host it.

 

[Questions]

I shall be applauding because an exceptional man died who was an inspirational figure to millions. A man I admired above many. If you think he was an evil terrorist whose life and work meant nothing, then don't.

No big deal.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Has he died? I missed that.

 

[daveinprague]

I dont think there should be an connection with this, its pesonal choice, but I would imagine many of the people on here, will be in the minority if there is any sort of mark to the mans life.

Ive seen so much crap on this thread...some from people who who would bomb some countries back to the stone-age for their treatment of civilian populations in countries around the world. White oppressive govts against a black population, a population fighting for human rights, and equality is somehow different.

Mandela jointly formed Umkhonto in response to the Sharpeville massacre.
At his trial, he wasnt charged with ANY deaths despite what some people have posted here this week. He was charged with attempting to overthrow the state.
People die in civil wars. Always have. Always will.
This was a civil war. A civil war that had to be won by the ANC.
I think that win still grates on some people.

 

[Albumen]

I'll be applauding. Happy to pay a little respect for a moment for someone i deem worthy of it. It doesn't matter if i am somewhere supposedly to shout hateful chants at people for a couple of hours. I am not sure where i should be to feel that bowing my head in honour of a legend for a minute fits in, so today's match seems ok enough of a place to host it.

That's how I see it

 

[Hamilton]

but everyman is equal right?

Yeah, and that's what he'd say if he were stood next to you.

 

[1066familyman]

yeah its a religious ceremony. people like that sort of thing religions quite popular. you go to a football match though and there is massive pressure on you to conform and join in a spectacle that wasnt what you went there for, based on the prevailing view. to me its nonsense and very undemocratic and sinister. people exerting moral pressure on people to go along with what is in reality a lot of showing off. the only reflection on show at times like this is people wondering how they look. dont like it one little bit.

This is how I feel too. Pressure from society. In my mind I've yet to stand for a minutes silence for 'Our brave boys' for instance - for me personally it's always just a silence I'm happy to observe for all the innocent victims of war the world over. I'd rather Rememberance Sunday silences didn't take place at football matches at all - those wanting to show their respects should go to their local ceremony instead.

Had I been at today's match I would not have felt particularly comfortable. Mandela was a truly remarkable human being in my eyes, and politically I'm on his side, but that's my business, not something I should feel compelled to express in public because of a misplaced minutes applause at a sporting event.

 

[The Spanish]

This is how I feel too. Pressure from society. In my mind I've yet to stand for a minutes silence for 'Our brave boys' for instance - for me personally it's always just a silence I'm happy to observe for all the innocent victims of war the world over. I'd rather Rememberance Sunday silences didn't take place at football matches at all - those wanting to show their respects should go to their local ceremony instead.

Had I been at today's match I would not have felt particularly comfortable. Mandela was a truly remarkable human being in my eyes, and politically I'm on his side, but that's my business, not something I should feel compelled to express in public because of a misplaced minutes applause at a sporting event.

spot on. this has nothing to do with it being about mandela, its about people enforcing these things or at least making the a fait accompli. people who say, oh well you dont have to join in, fail to realise that thats the next stage. when you do. passive agressively making these things a done deal, is something that makes me uncomfortable.

 

[atfc village]

No armbands or applause at the Dortmund game tonight.