Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Triggaaar]

In France they're fully disinfecting apartment, and the local school (where one of the infected kids who lived there intended just once for 1/2 a day since being infected) has been shut until kids he came into contact with (just 5 allegedly) are first tested..... Seems about right.

Whereas here, in the Grenadier pub, the staff are told to self isolate, there's nothing published about any form of disinfecting and the student from Portslade school also told to self isolate, it's quoted that the school asked if it should close (as the boy had been there) and the response from public health UK is "there's no need at this time"
So they're gambling there's no trace of infection in pub and school boy hasn't got it and passed it on. The french are not simply gambling and taking every precaution.

The student here hasn't been tested positive yet, so they've not shut the school. The school in France has shut, but one of the kids there was actually infected, so it's not the same.

The pub is a different matter, and maybe that should be closed, but that's a private business, so the decision making isn't the same as a school.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Big difference in how the French are dealing with this and the seemingly lackadaisical British with this Brighton case.

The Brighton fella, our 3rd confirmed case, got it at a business seminar in Singapore. Flew back via the French Alps for 5 days, stayed in an apartment where some Brirish guests and some Brits who live there have caught it after he left.

I read the vaccine can survive up to 28 days on some surfaces. So what Brighton fella touched was still infected after he'd left(which is the same as cruise ship after that fella disembarked).

In France they're fully disinfecting apartment, and the local school (where one of the infected kids who lived there intended just once for 1/2 a day since being infected) has been shut until kids he came into contact with (just 5 allegedly) are first tested..... Seems about right.

Whereas here, in the Grenadier pub, the staff are told to self isolate, there's nothing published about any form of disinfecting and the student from Portslade school also told to self isolate, it's quoted that the school asked if it should close (as the boy had been there) and the response from public health UK is "there's no need at this time"
So they're gambling there's no trace of infection in pub and school boy hasn't got it and passed it on. The french are not simply gambling and taking every precaution.

If public health England have gambled wrong it's already slowly spreading.

I think you’ll find that the life of the virus in the human body is 28 days. It will survive(in the right conditions) for up to 24 hours on a surface.
The apartment in York was deep cleaned in the same way the French have done. Basically the same protocols.

The number of new cases in China appears to be reducing which is in line with what a number of virologists have stated.
The one concern is that it mutates such that the infection rates increase as well as severity. As mentioned in one of the posts below the ability to pass on without showing symptoms isn’t correct which is very good news.

For some perspective.
40,000 cases, the vast majority in China, some 900 deaths.
Wuhan has a population of 11.3m. Infection rates are very low ....




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[Triggaaar]

For some perspective.
40,000 cases, the vast majority in China, some 900 deaths.
Wuhan has a population of 11.3m. Infection rates are very low ....

Let's hope those numbers aren't understated.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I think you’ll find that the life of the virus in the human body is 28 days. It will survive(in the right conditions) for up to 24 hours on a surface.
The apartment in York was deep cleaned in the same way the French have done. Basically the same protocols.

The number of new cases in China appears to be reducing which is in line with what a number of virologists have stated.
The one concern is that it mutates such that the infection rates increase as well as severity. As mentioned in one of the posts below the ability to pass on without showing symptoms isn’t correct which is very good news.

For some perspective.
40,000 cases, the vast majority in China, some 900 deaths.
Wuhan has a population of 11.3m. Infection rates are very low ....




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Finally a bit of perspective and sense. You'd think from certain Facebook groups that everyone in Portslade and Hangleton was about to die FFS.

 

[Bozza]

Let's hope those numbers aren't understated.

If the 40,000 number is understated, that wouldn't be the worst thing.

1 in 40 cases, give or take, leading to death strikes me as pretty high, above the 1% I think was being reported previously.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Finally a bit of perspective and sense. You'd think from certain Facebook groups that everyone in Portslade and Hangleton was about to die FFS.

This may still go pear shaped if the virus mutates and causes infection rates to shoot up and increases in severity. However everything I have read or heard or been told states that this is very very unlikely.

Washing of hands and covering your mouth when coughing seems to be the way to go but really, we should being doing this anyway regardless of coronavirus, SARS, MERS or any other type of virus/flu.



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[Deleted member 22389]

Perspective, perspective, perspective.

 

[Blue3]

The stabilisation of the numbers of new cases is very good news and hopfully shows the containment efforts in China appear to be working and if it turns out to be ultimatley successful then the World will be very thankful to the Chinese Government and people.

However it might be a force dawn and that the stabilisation is no more than the ending of the discovery of those who have been infected over the entire timeline of the out brake and that the virus continues its spread as before but that we are now seeing the true infection rate

 

[surrey jim]

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18223614.coronavirus-brighton-four-new-cases-confirmed/

THERE are reports that four more people have tested positive for the coronavirus in Brighton - which would take the total UK cases to eight.

Professor Chris Whitty has confirmed that the four new cases confirmed in the UK are "known contacts" of an existing coronavirus patient.

Here is the Chief Medical Officer's full statement: "Four further patients in England have tested positive for novel coronavirus, bringing the total number of cases in the UK to eight.

"The new cases are all known contacts of a previously confirmed UK case, and the virus was passed on in France.


"Experts at Public Health England continue to work hard tracing patient contacts from the UK cases. They successfully identified these individuals and ensured the appropriate support was provided.

"The patients have been transferred to specialist NHS centres at Guy’s and St Thomas’ and The Royal Free hospitals, and we are now using robust infection control measures to prevent further spread of the virus."

 

[Birdie Boy]

The student here hasn't been tested positive yet, so they've not shut the school. The school in France has shut, but one of the kids there was actually infected, so it's not the same.

The pub is a different matter, and maybe that should be closed, but that's a private business, so the decision making isn't the same as a school.

I was told last night by somebody that knows a barmaid there, that the pub is closed. I cannot 100% confirm this as I have not tried to go there for a beer, I'm not sure many others will either...

I think she said the bar staff are in isolation in the pub as well, so plenty of food and drink for a while... [emoji3]

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[BNthree]

And there is this:

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18223620.county-oak-medical-centre-brighton-shuts-safety-reason/

County Oak Medical centre has shut for unspecified safety reasons. Same day as 4 more cases in Brighton are reported.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

And there is this:

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18223620.county-oak-medical-centre-brighton-shuts-safety-reason/

County Oak Medical centre has shut for unspecified safety reasons. Same day as 4 more cases in Brighton are reported.

The 4 more cases are in France not in Brighton. The Brighton man spent time with them on the way home from a conference in Singapore.

 

[BNthree]

The 4 more cases are in France not in Brighton. The Brighton man spent time with them on the way home from a conference in Singapore.

Yep they are "known contacts" of the man and possibly caught it in France but the Argos are saying they were diagnosed in Brighton :

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18223614.coronavirus-brighton-four-new-cases-confirmed/

 

[Gazwag]

Washing of hands and covering your mouth when coughing seems to be the way to go but really, we should being doing this anyway regardless of coronavirus, SARS, MERS or any other type of virus/flu.

You would have thought in 2020 this would be common sense, but even on Saturday while I was washing my hands after using the gents at the Amex at least 10 men walked out without doing so.

I think also it should be made very clear under no circumstances, if you think you have the virus, should you go to a doctors surgery or hospital

 

[ManOfSussex]

I was in Brighton on Saturday afternoon before the Watford game. (Burger King, Churchill Square, North Laine Brew House, Great Eastern, Prince George, Nelson, Prince Albert, Train to Falmer) All the pubs were rammed, hot and stuffy and in the case of NLBH oppressively humid due to a Hen Party/disco going on. Overnight and into this morning I now have something that makes me feel the worst I've felt for a couple of years and whatever it is I've now got the symptoms are identical. Loads of other lurgy's are doing the rounds anyway, I haven't knowingly come into contact with anyone obviously, but I really don't feel well and I can't help but wonder what this actually is.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

I was in Brighton on Saturday afternoon before the Watford game. (Burger King, Churchill Square, North Laine Brew House, Great Eastern, Prince George, Nelson, Prince Albert, Train to Falmer) All the pubs were rammed, hot and stuffy and in the case of NLBH oppressively humid due to a Hen Party/disco going on. Overnight and into this morning I now have something that makes me feel the worst I've felt for a couple of years and whatever it is I've now got the symptoms are identical. Loads of other lurgy's are doing the rounds anyway, I haven't knowingly come into contact with anyone obviously, but I really don't feel well and I can't help but wonder what this actually is.

In all likelihood this years flu strain as the odds of spending 15 minutes within 2metres of someone who has the symptoms is mind blowingly low.
I believe that coronavirus takes upwards of 7 days to come out, but don’t quote me on that.



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[Triggaaar]

If the 40,000 number is understated, that wouldn't be the worst thing.

What if both numbers are understated? More people are getting it, and more are dying. It's been suggested that some have died without going to hospital and that their deaths haven't been recorded as Coronavirus

 

[Triggaaar]

it might be a force dawn

 

[Dick Swiveller]

However it might be a force dawn

Shame Adam and Joe aren't still going as this is a great "eggcorn"

 

[A1X]

I was in Brighton on Saturday afternoon before the Watford game. (Burger King, Churchill Square, North Laine Brew House, Great Eastern, Prince George, Nelson, Prince Albert, Train to Falmer) All the pubs were rammed, hot and stuffy and in the case of NLBH oppressively humid due to a Hen Party/disco going on. Overnight and into this morning I now have something that makes me feel the worst I've felt for a couple of years and whatever it is I've now got the symptoms are identical. Loads of other lurgy's are doing the rounds anyway, I haven't knowingly come into contact with anyone obviously, but I really don't feel well and I can't help but wonder what this actually is.

This sounds like you need to take 2 weeks off work and barricade yourself in with the TV in "self-quarantine". Better safe than sorry.