[Misc] F1 2021

[kentgully]

 

[St Leonards Seagull]

Supreme sportsmanship shown by Lewis. Champion to the end.

I’m sure some will find something wrong in that, given their determination to find someone wrong with Lewis.


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[banjo]

The rule says all cars unlap or no cars unlap. That decision is at Masi's discretion. If there is a rule that says only the cars between the leader and the second car must unlap then that rule needs to be shown. Mercedes seem to believe that rule does not exist.

He virtually tied Hamiltons legs together to finish a sprint race. Can’t see it being overturned though.

 

[A1X]

Mercedes have lodged an appeal

 

[Bozza]

Mercedes have lodged a complaint.

Presumably, given the strength of feeling from Mercedes, if the roles were reversed, Lewis would have just sat behind Max and allowed him to take the chequered flag and world championship?

 

[Seagull58]

Could this be overturned?

I suppose they can appeal to the court of arbitration in sport, unless there is another option with the FIA before that? But if the court decides the wrong decision was made what can they do? Scrap the race result, meaning Max still wins the title?

 

[Bold Seagull]

The others drivers can’t believe it. Tells a story.

 

[A1X]

Mercedes have lodged a complaint.

Presumably, given the strength of feeling from Mercedes, if the roles were reversed, Lewis would have just sat behind Max and allowed him to take the chequered flag and world championship?

I think they’d have expected Red Bull to appeal. This is a bit like saying that we as fans would expect a soft penalty not to be given against us so shouldn’t shout for one in our favour.

 

[zefarelly]

[SUB][/SUB]In 1958 they decided the saloon car championship like Gentlemen

http://touringcarracing.net/Races/1958 Brands Hatch Oct.html

Of course that takes 2 to tango and no Karen intervention.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Mercedes making an official protest apparently.

I'm not sure that if it proves successful it'll add anything to the season/competition.

It'll be a tarnished title whichever way it goes. Which is a real shame because it has been a magnificent season right up until Latifi ****ed it.

 

[maltaseagull]

He virtually tied Hamiltons legs together to finish a sprint race. Can’t see it being overturned though.

FIA got what they wanted. Total fix.
Lewis was way ahead until safely cars. Last one was a total set up.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Mercedes have lodged a complaint.

Presumably, given the strength of feeling from Mercedes, if the roles were reversed, Lewis would have just sat behind Max and allowed him to take the chequered flag and world championship?

Oh dear, this is getting a bit desperate now.

 

[St Leonards Seagull]

Mercedes have lodged a complaint.

Presumably, given the strength of feeling from Mercedes, if the roles were reversed, Lewis would have just sat behind Max and allowed him to take the chequered flag and world championship?

I think anyone who lost under those circumstances would feel aggrieved Red Bull or any other team.
Red bull this time did what any other team would have done given the circumstances.
The issue Is with the Mercedes and the FIA as it would be with any other team, where rules don’t appeared to have been followed by the race director.


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[pb21]

Mercedes have lodged a complaint.

Presumably, given the strength of feeling from Mercedes, if the roles were reversed, Lewis would have just sat behind Max and allowed him to take the chequered flag and world championship?

Either it's a valid appeal or not. I'm far from an expert, but it seems they have some basis for saying someone made a mistake.

I expect red bull would have done the same if the race officials had cocked up, like they seemingly have

 

[Bozza]

I think they’d have expected Red Bull to appeal. This is a bit like saying that we as fans would expect a soft penalty not to be given against us so shouldn’t shout for one in our favour.

Surely it wouldn't come to that...

As Mercedes know that what happened was wrong - and that applies whether you benefit from it or otherwise - they'd have instructed Lewis to sit behind Max and allowed him to take the rightful win.

Only, of course they wouldn't. Lewis would have gone for the win in the same way Max did.

I'm just trying to illustrate my point that I think both teams are remarkably similar and would generally do the same thing (moan to all and sundry and lodge a complaint if they can) if they were on the receiving end of something they feel unjust.

 

[Bozza]

Either it's a valid appeal or not. I'm far from an expert, but it seems they have some basis for saying someone made a mistake.

I expect red bull would have done the same if the race officials had cocked up, like they seemingly have

Fully agree on both counts.

 

[Bold Seagull]

I think anyone who lost under those circumstances would feel aggrieved Red Bull or any other team.
Red bull this time did what any other team would have done given the circumstances.
The issue Is with the Mercedes and the FIA as it would be with any other team, where rules don’t appeared to have been followed by the race director.


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Exactly. The protest clearly isn’t with RB - they’ve done nothing wrong and no suggestion they have. But if a SC is deployed and you have a set of rules that determines if you pit or not, then those rules change at the drop of a hat - you have a significant reason for protest.

 

[Hugo Rune]

The others drivers can’t believe it. Tells a story.

I think the FIA/Masi are in trouble here. They bent the rules to get the race underway. There should have been an extra lap before the safety car went into the pits:

“There is also this part of that article: "Unless clerk of the course considers the presence of the safety car is still necessary, once the last lapped car has passed the leader the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the following lap." There was no lap in between.”

Whilst I can’t see them taking this away from Max, it’s going to set an unfortunate precedent of race directors breaking the rules that might well see a lot of people switch off.

 

[Recidivist]

Pity Bottas has been so useless the last few races too. Look at the impact Perez had in holding back Lewis…..


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[Driver8]

Either it's a valid appeal or not. I'm far from an expert, but it seems they have some basis for saying someone made a mistake.

I expect red bull would have done the same if the race officials had cocked up, like they seemingly have

I don’t think it was a mistake. I think they knew exactly what they were doing.