ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Far from it again I'm afraid. It was a very balanced, realistic column piece from a remain supporting journalist regarding the present and didn't appear to make any speculative assumptions about the future either.
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Far from it again I'm afraid. It was a very balanced, realistic column piece from a remain supporting journalist regarding the present and didn't appear to make any speculative assumptions about the future either.
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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I agree with that. I agree with quite a lot of what Phillip Collins says. He sits on the right wing of the Labour Party, in the same way that Ken Clarke sits on the left of the Tory Party.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I agree with a lot of what he writes as well. I can't say the same with Tim Montgomerie.
Both Sides Of The Story, i hope.
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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He is conciliatory in manner and often pays respect to the views he is disagreeing with. I don't want to be controversial but I don't think you would like him very much.
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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Almost everything in my life is joyful, but this is a debate about the result of the referendum and its likely consequencies. I find it hard to see much positive in what I regard as a difficult, demeaning and unnecessary situation which will reduce the lives of many. I understand that you think the opposite. Plenty do.
Well I've just put three of his well known tracks down, so i am not anti him.
pastafarian
Well-known member
you been on the booze?
you and the remainers seem to be leading separate lives tonight.
Love it, separate lives, no booze has touched my lips, just one more night to me, maybe there is something in the air tonight.
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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He just keeps hangin' in there and we just keep ignorin' him.
Sorry, i will leave you to get back to slipping into your depression and dreaming of another referendum because the vote did not go your way.....carry on.
daveybgtt
New member
Interest rates look like they're going down, just in time for my re-mortgage. I'm alright Jack, thanks Brexit!
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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Blimey, what brought that on?
studio150
Well-known member
And those with savings? Oh sorry we mustn't raise the downside we must all be positive
To be fair, as a disappointed remainer, his comments were pretty reasonable.if you read the whole of the post - I gave it a thumbs up.
Baldseagull
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What I am not sure of, and it seems to me our own politicians are not sure of, is when can we even start negotiating a trade arrangement. Some think we can negotiate now, before invoking Article 50, some think not until we invoke article 50, and some believe, and I think this is correct, we cannot begin to negotiate until we have gone through the exit process, and are out, a minimum of 2 years after invoking article 50.
If it is at the end of the 2 year exit process, I think we will be in such a shit state by then, through job losses, cuts in benefits, NHS, and other services, to not worry about migrants coming in, they wont bloody want to. We will be wanting free movement so we can go and look for work in EU.
pastafarian
Well-known member
whilst its very clear that we must give our notification to leave the EU before negotiations on the Brexit can even begin you are right nearly everyone is confused as to whether or not trade negotiations can run alongside brexit negotiations.
Our and EU politicians seem somewhat in the dark.
Some seem to be arguing let the lawyers sort it out.
Others I have read say maybe both sides will just be pragmatic,(as its in their own interests) and conduct trade negotiations alongside exit negotiations and as each section of the brexit is agreed they will know better how they can proceed and announce the trade negotiation outcomes as soon as possible after the brexit is finished.
It would seem the sensible approach from all sides, and reading between the lines no EU members seem keen on dragging this whole affair on further than is necessary. they do after all have the interests of their own industry, exporters and jobs to consider.
Perhaps the EU could write a leave policy that is better legally understood for the next country going to use it.
well if the economy is going to be such a basket case as you predict you will be grateful for the non discriminatory immigration policy that will be in place after a Brexit. Immigrants will always wish to come to the UK,your belief they wont is rubbish .We will be able to choose the best and the brightest from the globe that want to come here and not have to refuse people because they are non European..
We can manage it in our best interests and allow those that will have a positive impact.
I call that progress, I call that forward thinking, the insular inward thinking of the EU can continue, but I don’t want this country to be a part of it.
What is with this playground "I win, you lose" talk? We are all in this together, so we either all lose or all win.
I imagine his "problem" is that he has been dragged into a gamble of his and all he holds dear's future, by others who had an opposing view.
Exactly, so let's stop the bleating and calling for another vote and get behind the decision, which was Leave.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
You are in denial about the very clear statements from all the politicians that will be managing the withdrawal from the EU that controlled immigration s the part of the foundation of the exit plan. Davis says it is non-negotiable.