[Politics] Brexit

[Lincoln Imp]

In case anyone fancies a bit of telly tonight there's an interesting-looking programme at 9 on BBC2 about those dreadful people Nigel told us were coming our way. How lucky we were to have him.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

For all of those Brexiters who voted leave to 'get our country back' (apparently the main reason for voting to leave) what do you make of Noam Chomsky advocating the UK to remain within the EU?

Bearing in mind this is a man who has long campaigned tirelessly for power to be in the hands of the ordinary man and not in political cartels and is a staunch supporter of democracy and democratic accountability?

Then i find it conflicting and confusing..

 

[yxee]

In case anyone fancies a bit of telly tonight there's an interesting-looking programme at 9 on BBC2 about those dreadful people Nigel told us were coming our way. How lucky we were to have him.

Meanwhile, the rest of the country is beginning to acknowledge that immigration is a legit concern for much on the UK. Whether someone is out of a job or fleeing conflicts, i don't think your mock tone is winning anyone over.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Those calling for a GE.

They are all very desperate.....did we call for an election when Brown took over from Blair...NO

Edit: it must be noted that we got our way and voted him out when the time came but that's the thing with us Brexiteers.....we get on with it without looking for every loophole under the SUN..

 

[Soulman]

They are all very desperate.....did we call for an election when Brown took over from Blair...NO

We just accepted.....perhaps we should have held protests and signed petitions.

 

[ManOfSussex]

They are all very desperate.....did we call for an election when Brown took over from Blair...NO

Theresa May did though. She accused Brown 'of running scared of the people’s verdict'.

 

[portslade seagull]

One step closer to Brexit referendum 2.0 this morning, there is a better deal to be had from Europe but might just need to ask the public again.

Straw clutching at its best. Next your be calling for a GE

 

[portslade seagull]

For all of those Brexiters who voted leave to 'get our country back' (apparently the main reason for voting to leave) what do you make of Noam Chomsky advocating the UK to remain within the EU?

Bearing in mind this is a man who has long campaigned tirelessly for power to be in the hands of the ordinary man and not in political cartels and is a staunch supporter of democracy and democratic accountability?[/QUOTE

Am I meant to have heard of him. Means nothing to me

 

[portslade seagull]

Theresa May did though. She accused Brown 'of running scared of the people’s verdict'.

Asked but never succeeded. Maybe in 4yrs time that particular wish will come true.

 

[Soulman]

For all of those Brexiters who voted leave to 'get our country back' (apparently the main reason for voting to leave) what do you make of Noam Chomsky advocating the UK to remain within the EU?

Bearing in mind this is a man who has long campaigned tirelessly for power to be in the hands of the ordinary man and not in political cartels and is a staunch supporter of democracy and democratic accountability?[/QUOTE

Am I meant to have heard of him. Means nothing to me

I think he was going out with the Cheeky Girl.

 

[The Clamp]

For all of those Brexiters who voted leave to 'get our country back' (apparently the main reason for voting to leave) what do you make of Noam Chomsky advocating the UK to remain within the EU?

Bearing in mind this is a man who has long campaigned tirelessly for power to be in the hands of the ordinary man and not in political cartels and is a staunch supporter of democracy and democratic accountability?[/QUOTE

Am I meant to have heard of him. Means nothing to me

You could say he has something of a profile. One of the 20th/21st centuries most respected logicians among many, many other strings to his bow.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Theresa May did though. She accused Brown 'of running scared of the people’s verdict'.

She was right and fair play to her.....

He was a Scot after all.........he was destined to go.....

 

[Seagull58]

The man is a legend as far as I am concerned as I made a shed load from Invesco Perpetual when he was running it

Same here and doing fine with CF Woodford also.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Asked but never succeeded.

True. I can see why some people might accuse Mrs May of being a hypocrite now though or perhaps shes just running scared of what verdict the people might give in a snap general election. A most unlikely event though, but that's the trouble with politics, you never know. Harold Macmillan's greatest fear was - 'Events, dear boy, events' for a reason.

 

[portslade seagull]

You could say he has something of a profile. One of the 20th/21st centuries most respected logicians among many, many other strings to his bow.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky

Sorry still means nothing. Was it a special uni course or something.

 

[yxee]

True. I can see why some people might accuse Mrs May of being a hypocrite now though or perhaps shes just running scared of what verdict the people might give in a snap general election. A most unlikely event though, but that's the trouble with politics, you never know. Harold Macmillan's greatest fear was - 'Events, dear boy, events' for a reason.

I doubt she's scared. There's no competition. But it's a nonsense idea, one year after a general election.

And let's not forget. Brown had no competition, he was automatically appointed. May has gone through a proper leadership process.

 

[ManOfSussex]

She was right and fair play to her.....

He was a Scot after all.........he was destined to go.....

All Scots are at some point I feel. If Mrs May wants to renew Trident she's going to need a new base for it in Cumbria.

 

[ManOfSussex]

May has gone through a proper leadership process.

Personally I wouldn't call anything related to the 1922 committee proper, but it was a process and a contest of sorts.

 

[Seagull58]

You could say he has something of a profile. One of the 20th/21st centuries most respected logicians among many, many other strings to his bow.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky

What are his reasons for advocating the UK stays in the EU? I see that he has no economics qualifications or experience noted in his profile.

 

[The Clamp]

Sorry still means nothing. Was it a special uni course or something.

It's not a crime to not have heard of him. I know it's trendy amongst Brexit folk to big up the "university of life, common man" archetype but Chomsky really has had an impact on everybody's life in many parts of the globe, including yours. I know it may not be appealing to your good self but I make a point, where possible, of knowing a little something about the people that influence my life. He has been influencing politicians, business men, philanthropists and movers and shakers in general for over 70 years. He's worth a look at if you ever get a minute.