[Politics] Brexit

[studio150]

You are one strange person, you are almost willing it to fail just to prove you are right. Are you always this negative ??

Most of the time, I am a glass empty person rather than a half full/empty

This way I can never be disappointed

 

[pastafarian]

Well, that didn't take long - a UK Trade Continuity Act reaches Congress just one week after a UK vote for Brexit.

The proposed bill aims to lock down current trading arrangements between the U.S and the UK, and fire the starting gun on a bilateral deal, with the intention of concluding a trade agreement within one year.

Commenting on the bill, House Speaker, Paul Ryan said, “We need to emphasize that they are our indispensable ally. We have a special relationship, and I think that does mean we should have a trade agreement with Great Britain."

So much for being back of the queue, Barack.


By Lukas Mikelionis | 4:39 am, July 1, 2016
Despite claims that the US would banish Britain to the “back of the queue” if it dared to leave the European Union, Congress is already considering measures to boost trade with the UK.

A bill to lock down current trading arrangements, and fire the starting gun on a bilateral deal, was introduced to the US Senate yesterday.

The United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act mandates the US to keep trading on exactly the same terms after Britain leaves the EU.

It also urges the President to start fast-track talks with the UK, with the aim of concluding a bilateral trade deal in just one year.

The bill (full text below) was introduced by senators Mike Lee (R-UT) and Tom Cotton (R-AR), who said strengthening the so-called special relationship is in the interest of both nations.

By Lukas Mikelionis | 4:39 am, July 1, 2016
Despite claims that the US would banish Britain to the “back of the queue” if it dared to leave the European Union, Congress is already considering measures to boost trade with the UK.

A bill to lock down current trading arrangements, and fire the starting gun on a bilateral deal, was introduced to the US Senate yesterday.

The United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act mandates the US to keep trading on exactly the same terms after Britain leaves the EU.

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4:26 PM - 28 Jun 2016
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"We need to emphasize that they are our indispensable ally," Ryan said.
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It also urges the President to start fast-track talks with the UK, with the aim of concluding a bilateral trade deal in just one year.

The bill (full text below) was introduced by senators Mike Lee (R-UT) and Tom Cotton (R-AR), who said strengthening the so-called special relationship is in the interest of both nations.

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US-UK Free Trade Agreement gathering momentum. Senators Lee & Cotton introduce "United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act" https://www.scribd.com/doc/317160209/Lee-Cotton-Introduce-United-Kingdom-Trade-Continuity-Act …
8:56 PM - 30 Jun 2016
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Lee, Cotton Introduce United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act
WASHINGTON – Sens. Mike Lee (R-UT) and Tom Cotton (R-AR) introduced the “United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act” Wednesday, a bill designed to promote economic stability and growth as the United Kingdom...
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It comes after a string of nations made positive noises about stepping up UK trade within days of it ditching the EU, which removes the ability of member states to strike their own deals.

The crucial section of the bill reads: “Not later than 30 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the President should initiate negotiations with the United Kingdom with the goal of reaching a final comprehensive bilateral trade agreement by the date that is one year after such date of enactment; and the President should make every effort to negotiate such an agreement expeditiously.”

Such a timescale is in stark contrast to the beleaguered TTIP deal between the US and the EU, which has been under negotiation for more than a decade.

Some experts have suggested that Brexit may have destroyed the deal completely.

While the bill has no power to compel the President to do anything, it would be a strong sign that the US prioritizes closer economic relations with the UK.

In a statement on the bill, Senator Lee said: “Our nation’s special relationship with the United Kingdom has promoted economic prosperity and security in both countries for over a hundred years.
“This relationship can and should be preserved – which is why we have introduced legislation that would minimize uncertainty and promote stability as the United Kingdom declares their independence from the European Union.”

Senator Cotton said strong military ties between the US and UK mean that Britain should get special treatment.

He said the UK “stood with us at the front lines of battle, and it should therefore be at the front of the line for a free trade agreement that benefits both our nations.

“At this time of transition for our ancestral ally, it is in our deepest interest to reaffirm the Special Relationship.

“And it is my hope that our other European allies will also move in the spirit of magnanimity, generosity, and continued friendship as they negotiate new partnerships with the United Kingdom”





So you are saying we won't be at the back of the queue and for whatever reason make no mention of the FACT that the Bill is worthless as the President can just ignore it. But of course that doesn;t fit in with view of every things better outside of the EU.

how can you be omitting something if you provide a link for everyone to read
surely the only crime here is being lazy and not copying and pasting the whole article.....which is a bit of a ballache when its riddled with images

 

[Soulman]

Well, that didn't take long - a UK Trade Continuity Act reaches Congress just one week after a UK vote for Brexit.

The proposed bill aims to lock down current trading arrangements between the U.S and the UK, and fire the starting gun on a bilateral deal, with the intention of concluding a trade agreement within one year.

Commenting on the bill, House Speaker, Paul Ryan said, “We need to emphasize that they are our indispensable ally. We have a special relationship, and I think that does mean we should have a trade agreement with Great Britain."

So much for being back of the queue, Barack.


By Lukas Mikelionis | 4:39 am, July 1, 2016
Despite claims that the US would banish Britain to the “back of the queue” if it dared to leave the European Union, Congress is already considering measures to boost trade with the UK.

A bill to lock down current trading arrangements, and fire the starting gun on a bilateral deal, was introduced to the US Senate yesterday.

The United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act mandates the US to keep trading on exactly the same terms after Britain leaves the EU.

It also urges the President to start fast-track talks with the UK, with the aim of concluding a bilateral trade deal in just one year.

The bill (full text below) was introduced by senators Mike Lee (R-UT) and Tom Cotton (R-AR), who said strengthening the so-called special relationship is in the interest of both nations.

By Lukas Mikelionis | 4:39 am, July 1, 2016
Despite claims that the US would banish Britain to the “back of the queue” if it dared to leave the European Union, Congress is already considering measures to boost trade with the UK.

A bill to lock down current trading arrangements, and fire the starting gun on a bilateral deal, was introduced to the US Senate yesterday.

The United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act mandates the US to keep trading on exactly the same terms after Britain leaves the EU.

Follow
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US House Speaker @SpeakerRyan calls for trade deal with UK, says he might have voted for Brexit too http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/paul-ryan-brexit-trade-224878 …
4:26 PM - 28 Jun 2016
Photo published for Ryan calls for post-Brexit trade deal with U.K.
Ryan calls for post-Brexit trade deal with U.K.
"We need to emphasize that they are our indispensable ally," Ryan said.
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It also urges the President to start fast-track talks with the UK, with the aim of concluding a bilateral trade deal in just one year.

The bill (full text below) was introduced by senators Mike Lee (R-UT) and Tom Cotton (R-AR), who said strengthening the so-called special relationship is in the interest of both nations.

Follow
Luke Coffey [MENTION=18348]luke[/MENTION]DCoffey
US-UK Free Trade Agreement gathering momentum. Senators Lee & Cotton introduce "United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act" https://www.scribd.com/doc/317160209/Lee-Cotton-Introduce-United-Kingdom-Trade-Continuity-Act …
8:56 PM - 30 Jun 2016
Photo published for Lee, Cotton Introduce United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act
Lee, Cotton Introduce United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act
WASHINGTON – Sens. Mike Lee (R-UT) and Tom Cotton (R-AR) introduced the “United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act” Wednesday, a bill designed to promote economic stability and growth as the United Kingdom...
scribd.com
289 289 Retweets 187 187 likes
It comes after a string of nations made positive noises about stepping up UK trade within days of it ditching the EU, which removes the ability of member states to strike their own deals.

The crucial section of the bill reads: “Not later than 30 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the President should initiate negotiations with the United Kingdom with the goal of reaching a final comprehensive bilateral trade agreement by the date that is one year after such date of enactment; and the President should make every effort to negotiate such an agreement expeditiously.”

Such a timescale is in stark contrast to the beleaguered TTIP deal between the US and the EU, which has been under negotiation for more than a decade.

Some experts have suggested that Brexit may have destroyed the deal completely.

While the bill has no power to compel the President to do anything, it would be a strong sign that the US prioritizes closer economic relations with the UK.

In a statement on the bill, Senator Lee said: “Our nation’s special relationship with the United Kingdom has promoted economic prosperity and security in both countries for over a hundred years.
“This relationship can and should be preserved – which is why we have introduced legislation that would minimize uncertainty and promote stability as the United Kingdom declares their independence from the European Union.”

Senator Cotton said strong military ties between the US and UK mean that Britain should get special treatment.

He said the UK “stood with us at the front lines of battle, and it should therefore be at the front of the line for a free trade agreement that benefits both our nations.

“At this time of transition for our ancestral ally, it is in our deepest interest to reaffirm the Special Relationship.

“And it is my hope that our other European allies will also move in the spirit of magnanimity, generosity, and continued friendship as they negotiate new partnerships with the United Kingdom”





So you are saying we won't be at the back of the queue and for whatever reason make no mention of the FACT that the Bill is worthless as the President can just ignore it. But of course that doesn;t fit in with view of every things better outside of the EU.

I am not saying anything, although that MIGHT be the case, actually this fellow not me stated "Commenting on the bill, House Speaker, Paul Ryan said, “We need to emphasize that they are our indispensable ally. We have a special relationship, and I think that does mean we should have a trade agreement with Great Britain."

Oh and this fella "Senator Cotton said strong military ties between the US and UK mean that Britain should get special treatment.

He said the UK “stood with us at the front lines of battle, and it should therefore be at the front of the line for a free trade agreement that benefits both our nations.

“At this time of transition for our ancestral ally, it is in our deepest interest to reaffirm the Special Relationship.

“And it is my hope that our other European allies will also move in the spirit of magnanimity, generosity, and continued friendship as they negotiate new partnerships with the United Kingdom”

So your accusations that i stated " FACT that the Bill is worthless".......has not come from me has it.
When accusing try and use the first hand text that was written, not shoehorn in what you think the poster has.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Firstly i do not "have to comment" secondly i am not aware of my "omission regarding the USA legislation post".....feel free to inform me and the rest of the posters that you are playing up to, what this "omission" is. Hopefully with your wisdom you can clear it up.

Well, that didn't take long - a UK Trade Continuity Act reaches Congress just one week after a UK vote for Brexit.

The proposed bill aims to lock down current trading arrangements between the U.S and the UK, and fire the starting gun on a bilateral deal, with the intention of concluding a trade agreement within one year.

Commenting on the bill, House Speaker, Paul Ryan said, “We need to emphasize that they are our indispensable ally. We have a special relationship, and I think that does mean we should have a trade agreement with Great Britain."

So much for being back of the queue, Barack.


By Lukas Mikelionis | 4:39 am, July 1, 2016
Despite claims that the US would banish Britain to the “back of the queue” if it dared to leave the European Union, Congress is already considering measures to boost trade with the UK.

A bill to lock down current trading arrangements, and fire the starting gun on a bilateral deal, was introduced to the US Senate yesterday.

The United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act mandates the US to keep trading on exactly the same terms after Britain leaves the EU.

It also urges the President to start fast-track talks with the UK, with the aim of concluding a bilateral trade deal in just one year.

The bill (full text below) was introduced by senators Mike Lee (R-UT) and Tom Cotton (R-AR), who said strengthening the so-called special relationship is in the interest of both nations.

By Lukas Mikelionis | 4:39 am, July 1, 2016
Despite claims that the US would banish Britain to the “back of the queue” if it dared to leave the European Union, Congress is already considering measures to boost trade with the UK.

A bill to lock down current trading arrangements, and fire the starting gun on a bilateral deal, was introduced to the US Senate yesterday.

The United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act mandates the US to keep trading on exactly the same terms after Britain leaves the EU.

Follow
Viv J. @Un_Spin
US House Speaker @SpeakerRyan calls for trade deal with UK, says he might have voted for Brexit too http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/paul-ryan-brexit-trade-224878 …
4:26 PM - 28 Jun 2016
Photo published for Ryan calls for post-Brexit trade deal with U.K.
Ryan calls for post-Brexit trade deal with U.K.
"We need to emphasize that they are our indispensable ally," Ryan said.
politico.com
53 53 Retweets 34 34 likes
It also urges the President to start fast-track talks with the UK, with the aim of concluding a bilateral trade deal in just one year.

The bill (full text below) was introduced by senators Mike Lee (R-UT) and Tom Cotton (R-AR), who said strengthening the so-called special relationship is in the interest of both nations.

Follow
Luke Coffey [MENTION=18348]luke[/MENTION]DCoffey
US-UK Free Trade Agreement gathering momentum. Senators Lee & Cotton introduce "United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act" https://www.scribd.com/doc/317160209/Lee-Cotton-Introduce-United-Kingdom-Trade-Continuity-Act …
8:56 PM - 30 Jun 2016
Photo published for Lee, Cotton Introduce United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act
Lee, Cotton Introduce United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act
WASHINGTON – Sens. Mike Lee (R-UT) and Tom Cotton (R-AR) introduced the “United Kingdom Trade Continuity Act” Wednesday, a bill designed to promote economic stability and growth as the United Kingdom...
scribd.com
289 289 Retweets 187 187 likes
It comes after a string of nations made positive noises about stepping up UK trade within days of it ditching the EU, which removes the ability of member states to strike their own deals.

The crucial section of the bill reads: “Not later than 30 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the President should initiate negotiations with the United Kingdom with the goal of reaching a final comprehensive bilateral trade agreement by the date that is one year after such date of enactment; and the President should make every effort to negotiate such an agreement expeditiously.”

Such a timescale is in stark contrast to the beleaguered TTIP deal between the US and the EU, which has been under negotiation for more than a decade.

Some experts have suggested that Brexit may have destroyed the deal completely.

While the bill has no power to compel the President to do anything, it would be a strong sign that the US prioritizes closer economic relations with the UK.

In a statement on the bill, Senator Lee said: “Our nation’s special relationship with the United Kingdom has promoted economic prosperity and security in both countries for over a hundred years.
“This relationship can and should be preserved – which is why we have introduced legislation that would minimize uncertainty and promote stability as the United Kingdom declares their independence from the European Union.”

Senator Cotton said strong military ties between the US and UK mean that Britain should get special treatment.

He said the UK “stood with us at the front lines of battle, and it should therefore be at the front of the line for a free trade agreement that benefits both our nations.

“At this time of transition for our ancestral ally, it is in our deepest interest to reaffirm the Special Relationship.

“And it is my hope that our other European allies will also move in the spirit of magnanimity, generosity, and continued friendship as they negotiate new partnerships with the United Kingdom”





So you are saying we won't be at the back of the queue and for whatever reason make no mention of the FACT that the Bill is worthless as the President can just ignore it. But of course that doesn;t fit in with view of every things better outside of the EU.

You are one strange person, you are almost willing it to fail just to prove you are right. Are you always this negative ??

It does kind of show the omission though. Amazing how Leavers keep citing things that aren't legally binding, mainly because they didn't realise they weren't legally binding.

 

[portslade seagull]

Most of the time, I am a glass empty person rather than a half full/empty

This way I can never be disappointed

Must be at least half full for the Albion's prospects next season .... isn't it ??

 

[Soulman]

how can you be omitting something if you provide a link for everyone to read
surely the only crime here is being lazy and not copying and pasting the whole article.....which is a bit of a ballache when its riddled with images

In his and Dave's haste to try and diss the poster because they have a different view, they dive in with wrong conclusions and love to put in their little twists.

 

[Soulman]

Must be at least half full for the Albion's prospects next season .... isn't it ??

You have "omitted" something i reckon, maybe you should read your post again

 

[El Presidente]

The vast majority of major German companies reported not having hired any of the million plus migrants who arrived in the country last year. The German government, International Monetary Fund (IMF), and Deutsche Bank predicted the migrants would be an economic boon for the country. Much of the international media echoed these claims, saying many doctors and architects were among last year’s influx of immigration to Germany. In a survey by the Frankfurter Allgemeiner Zeitung (FAZ), however, most of the top 30 companies on the German stock exchange (DAX) said they were unable to employ any of the new arrivals. The companies said migrants lacked the necessary qualifications needed to fill any of their roles.

Although the companies surveyed employ four million workers, FAZ reported that between them, they had only hired 54 migrants. Fifty of these are employed by the German post office, and the vast majority of top German companies hired none at all. Software giant SAP reported having two migrants working for them, and pharmaceutical manufacturer Merck also said they had hired two. The Kiel-based Institute for World Economics estimated that only two per cent of recent migrants to Germany are employable. Professor Ludger Wössmann, director of the Centre for the Economics of Education in Munich, said his research showed at least two thirds of migrants can’t read or write.


At the International Motor Show in Frankfurt, Daimler CEO Dieter Zetsche said the migrant influx would provide Germany with an “economic miracle”. Saying migrants who traveled to Germany are highly motivated, the automaker said his company was “looking for such people”. Despite these claims, FAZ revealed Mr. Zetsche’s company has yet to hire any migrants.
The newspaper reports that many DAX companies are involved in the “We Together” project. The project, launched by United Internet boss Ralph Dommermuth, aims to get migrants in employment. FAZ reported that United Internet, and its subsidiary 1&1, employ 8,200 people. Of these, though, the companies have only five migrants working for them, all in trainee positions. They said they did not want to make promises they can’t keep.

You're quoting from Breitbart News, the conservative news aggregator that is to the right of Fox News.

 

[Soulman]

It does kind of show the omission though. Amazing how Leavers keep citing things that aren't legally binding, mainly because they didn't realise they weren't legally binding.

Crikey, really. I never said/thought it would be legally binding.....i still maintain although i am willing to "omit" that we will NOT be at the "back of the queue" when it comes to deals with the USA, this is MY opinion and it is not legally binding....i hope you realise.

 

[Soulman]

You're quoting from Breitbart News, the conservative news aggregator that is to the right of Fox News.

Correct. Posters quote from many different news.....is it ok that i quote from this one and others quote from opposing news sources.....or must we all quote from the Guardian etc.

 

[studio150]

how can you be omitting something if you provide a link for everyone to read
surely the only crime here is being lazy and not copying and pasting the whole article.....which is a bit of a ballache when its riddled with images

When its totally at odds to what has been posted

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Correct. Posters quote from many different news.....is it ok that i quote from this one and others quote from opposing news sources.....or must we all quote from the Guardian etc.

I do wonder what the point is of posting links to opinion pieces from organisations totally committed to one side or the other. They are usually Brexit and they are usually of the far right but the principle applies to both sides. I mean what does it add to the general sum of human knowledge that Desmond's Daily Express believes that migrants are such an existential threat to the country that he needs to write front page headlines about them day after day after day. We're not learning anything.

 

[studio150]

In his and Dave's haste to try and diss the poster because they have a different view, they dive in with wrong conclusions and love to put in their little twists.

Totally wrong why did you not comment on the fact that the bill is worthless but hey I will leave you in your own fantasy world where everything is brillant

 

[pastafarian]

You're quoting from Breitbart News, the conservative news aggregator that is to the right of Fox News.

who made you quote monitor?
couldnt you be bothered to follow the links provided in the article to the german newspaper where they were getting their material from
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtscha...fnungstraeger-fuer-fluechtlinge-14323607.html

debunk and tear apart articles if they are wrong, but dismissing them out of hand simply because you dont like the source is a bit student high horse childish

 

[daveinprague]

In his and Dave's haste to try and diss the poster because they have a different view, they dive in with wrong conclusions and love to put in their little twists.

I didnt diss you because I disagreed with you. I dissed you because you blatantly lied.

'Norway are not fully in the EU and they deported 8000 a couple of months back. Calling those that do not agree with you expletives and idiot shows you can not handle different opinions. Carry on...'

 

[Soulman]

I didnt diss you because I disagreed with you. I dissed you because you blatantly lied.

'Norway are not fully in the EU and they deported 8000 a couple of months back. Calling those that do not agree with you expletives and idiot shows you can not handle different opinions. Carry on...'

I have already stated that i made a mistake and put months instead of 8000 a year, it was not a lie and on this post and a few over the years you have called me a liar.
Clearly by doing this you are trying to curry favour with others. I will probably in the future get things wrong as do many.....but lieing, no.
Now toddle off to your 3+ dating sites and get some company....might calm you down a bit.

 

[Hampster Gull]

I see the FTSE 250 is up over 300 points (2%) this morning so not all doom and gloom.

Sadly i take from this post that youre no financial wizz. Nor an "expert", although of course those are not welcome in a Brexit world

 

[Hampster Gull]

Interesting that Tata have pulled selling the steelworks as they now see a brighter future out of the EU

Even with a weak pound. Real jobs, really lost

 

[Eeyore]

Some of the political language being used at the moment, very cleverly too, seems to suggest that there will be no 'Brexit' anytime soon. It looks rather like they will try to 'negotiate' exit terms and then go back to the country. In a sense, it is the right thing to do. But it's clear that there is an undercurrent of clandestine activity in political circles to change the narrative.

 

[5ways]

Some of the political language being used at the moment, very cleverly too, seems to suggest that there will be no 'Brexit' anytime soon. It looks rather like they will try to 'negotiate' exit terms and then go back to the country. In a sense, it is the right thing to do. Bit it's clear that there is an undercurrent of clandestine activity in political circles to change the narrative.

Unfortunately we have to take the Boris route. Take Brexit as a starting point not an end point. Whatever we end up with will look pretty similar to what we already have, simply without the influence, economic strength or global standing we previously enjoyed.