[Politics] Brexit

[ManOfSussex]

It's strange isn't it this "Our Country" line, seems to me that the country is pretty owned lock stock and barrel by about 3% and they could care less about any of us. Billionaires like Dyson who didn't want to pay a working wage to British people who subsequently transferred manufacturing to Malaysia but still wanted Brexit, It's a right wing coup folks and you have been conned.

As Anthony Hilton said - 'I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. 'That’s easy,' he replied. 'When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.'

 

[smeg]

As Anthony Hilton said - 'I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. 'That’s easy,' he replied. 'When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.'

Not long now until we see what a Farage / Murdoch inspired utopia looks like and I'd say with some certainty the working classes won't like it.

 

[Titanic]

FTSE is a reflection of international business, the pound is a much more relevant guide to belief in the ongoing strength of the British economy.

and the trade-weighted index for the £ v $ is broadly at the same levels it was throughout 2009-14... so that would also appear to be in quite reasonable shape.

Despite many desperately trying to talk the economy, stock markets and the £ down, it doesn't seem to have much traction... for now.

I am hoping for a fairly quick resolution to #brexit. When German unification was first discussed, it was expected to take between 5 and 10 years to complete. The main agreements were all completed within 300 days.

 

[Baldseagull]

Is the EU evolving, as in moving in the right direction? The indications over the last 10 years or more are that the EU leaders are intent on evolving into a single European federal state. The BREXIT vote has, seemingly, resulted in EU statements proposing to speed up the federalisation process.

Yeah, this is one of the issues with the E.U., anytime there is a hiatus, they push for greater political Union, it is trying to protect itself from fragmenting, for me, that is not an issue but understand most people are not ready for this and it will take generations before it is seen as a natural and comfortable step to make for most citizens of the E.U.
However, Mr. Cameron obtained special status within the E.U. for the U.K. in February, ensuring that we would not be forced down that route or forced out of the Union because of it.
I think a United States of Europe is a long way off, but it is on the agenda and will one day happen, just not in my lifetime.

If it feels uncomfortable for you, to be European, at least you know now how many Scots feel about being British. It might be better for me, but I just don't like it!

 

[studio150]

On and on and on, maybe that is why you are on so many dating sites, you bore them. By the way your profile on one was done when you were 53, you are now 61, like on here try changing the profile like the record. Good luck getting a younger partner and update the profile picture as well.

Avoid the question yet again

 

[beorhthelm]

I am hoping for a fairly quick resolution to #brexit. When German unification was first discussed, it was expected to take between 5 and 10 years to complete. The main agreements were all completed within 300 days.

hmm, thats the Germans though. we probably need to get some on our side to help progress that efficiently.

 

[BigGully]

Yeah, this is one of the issues with the E.U., anytime there is a hiatus, they push for greater political Union, it is trying to protect itself from fragmenting, for me, that is not an issue but understand most people are not ready for this and it will take generations before it is seen as a natural and comfortable step to make for most citizens of the E.U.
However, Mr. Cameron obtained special status within the E.U. for the U.K. in February, ensuring that we would not be forced down that route or forced out of the Union because of it.
I think a United States of Europe is a long way off, but it is on the agenda and will one day happen, just not in my lifetime.

If it feels uncomfortable for you, to be European, at least you know now how many Scots feel about being British. It might be better for me, but I just don't like it!

It will fragment, they just happened to forget to take the people with them and its broken beyond repair, my guess just a group of loosely associated trading nation states, with a few common principles, purposes and outlooks, now that I like ........

 

[studio150]

and the trade-weighted index for the £ v $ is broadly at the same levels it was throughout 2009-14... so that would also appear to be in quite reasonable shape.

Despite many desperately trying to talk the economy, stock markets and the £ down, it doesn't seem to have much traction... for now.

I am hoping for a fairly quick resolution to #brexit. When German unification was first discussed, it was expected to take between 5 and 10 years to complete. The main agreements were all completed within 300 days.

But that's German efficiency for you, not the snail pace of the British Civil Service

 

[Soulman]

Avoid the question yet again

Jeez. What question? . I put up a link from an American source, you did not agree and stated I was lieing, I did not write the article did I.

 

[beorhthelm]

However, Mr. Cameron obtained special status within the E.U. for the U.K. in February, ensuring that we would not be forced down that route or forced out of the Union because of it.

still clinging on to that one? no treaty, no deal, and now he's gone no one even has any personal obligation to keep.

 

[Titanic]

hmm, thats the Germans though. we probably need to get some on our side to help progress that efficiently.

But that's German efficiency for you, not the snail pace of the British Civil Service

I have just spent the last 3 days in Germany. Most of the people that I spoke to were disappointed with the #brexit vote, but have a keen interest in maintaining good relations with the UK and getting this sorted quickly.

 

[studio150]

Jeez. What question? . I put up a link from an American source, you did not agree and stated I was lieing, I did not write the article did I.

You omitted details that proved your statement was totally wrong, but why let the actual facts get in the way of your views

 

[Baldseagull]

What evidence have you got that the result would be different? WWIII hasn't started yet has it?

Yes it is. I expect there to be a recession, but it's only a guess.

You're in no position to make such a promise. You don't know what will happen, or what we'll all think of it.

No evidence a referendum tomorrow would return a different result, that's why I said I believe, not it will, but lets do it and find out, would be less harmful than the, no evidence things will be better after leaving, but lets do it and find out option.

It really is not a guess that there will be a recession, there will be and everyone knows it. The optomists think it could be over in 12 months.

I have a special power known as Common Sense, it tells me to listen to experts and that someone who is in denial that things are going to get really rough if we do this, is going to regret that he chose to do this, when it gets really rough.

There are a lot of really bad possibilities that will get closer to reality, on top.

 

[Titanic]

...There are a lot of really bad possibilities that will get closer to reality, on top.

What are the 'really bad possibilities' and how likely are they in your (or your favourite experts) opinion?

 

[Baldseagull]

still clinging on to that one? no treaty, no deal, and now he's gone no one even has any personal obligation to keep.

It was agreed with all member states, it would have come into effect but I suspect that it will go out of the window now, and certainly won't be on the table if we ever try to get back in.
Personally it was not an issue for me, but if it was for you, it really should not have been. This was not a piece of expert advice you can just disregard, it was a fact.

 

[East Preston Gull]

IMF have said it is very unlikely there will be a global recession as a result of Brexit.

Many companies have posted higher share prices today due to the lower pound value.

Merkel is now seriously challenging the authority of the big 5 EU commissioners.

The EU is dead, long live a true trade only Europe. Cooperation, not regulation.

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[Baldseagull]

What are the 'really bad possibilities' and how likely are they in your (or your favourite experts) opinion?

The worst outcome is war, but that would be ridiculous wouldn't it?

 

[smeg]

The worst outcome is war, but that would be ridiculous wouldn't it?

Let's just see what happens, it will be alright.....................

 

[Titanic]

The worst outcome is war, but that would be ridiculous wouldn't it?

How likely is that, between which countries and over what issue?

 

[East Preston Gull]

Now China says a trade deal more likely with the UK now it is leaving the EU.

China has been frustrated with the snails pace trading rules of the EU.


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