Biggest twats - by trade

[Barrel of Fun]

along the lines of a proffesional valuation taking into account the structual condition and defects that would affect the value.

That sort of valuation would cost around 3-400 pounds, perhaps that's the answer, get a RICS valuation done b4 selling dont forget to pay, then you have your price, i wonder how many people considering selling would cough up for this sort of survey when they can get a free one from their friendly estate agent, anyway the hips will change things coming to a town near you in 2007!

Good job it is changing. Home information packs are a massive leap forward.

 

[Simster]

althoughmost surveyors I've met don't seem to use any of their qualifications, they just cover their arses

But that works - surveyors find all sort of silly problems with your house. If they didn't, we'd all wonder why we handed over our £400 or whatever.

 

[zefarelly]

But that works - surveyors find all sort of silly problems with your house. If they didn't, we'd all wonder why we handed over our £400 or whatever.

not really, I have a freind with a 500 year old house, the surveyor didn't appear to know his arse from his elbow and effectively condemned the place. he had his own survey done and the house in in excellent order. the original surveyor caused a deal to fall through and cost everyone a load of money becasue he didn't know what the f*** he was looking at.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

I think the reason why the surveyor condemned the place was to cover his arse as said. The trouble with the UK now is every regulated professional including me has to spend most of the day doing paper trial and factfinds and reports to cover their arses in every possible eventuality for fear of this countries compensation culture.

" Did you fall over a payments 12 years ago ? ". You may be entitled to £ 5000 compensation , call Ambulance Chasers direct

 

[Redhead]

There are some good estate agents and they work long hours but as far as I am concerned THEY WILL NEVER BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AS A PROFESSION UNLESS THEY ARE REGULATED AND HAVE TO PASS QUALIFICATIONS TO BE ABLE TO ADVISE ( and I don't mean the misrepresentations act or whatever it is called which my golden retriever could pass ).

House buying chain


Estate Agents - no qualifications required, no training required, not regulated

Kerry Mayo and Charlie Oatway could leave the Albion tomorrow and set up " Mayo and Oatway Estate Agents " and go round and value and market your most valuable possession in your lifetime, your house.

The good estate agents should insist on regulation to boot act the shit one as this thread testifies

Cant and don't need to speak for Chicken run but the agency i'm at are govern by a central body called TEAM we are regulated by them in terms of performance and service.

With regard to no qualifications, i needed A-Levels to get my job, and as there is no training required do you fancy covering for me this afternoon, by all accounts all i do is drink tea and lie.

 

[3gulls]

"IT consultants" - bunch of morons just trying to flog some system that is usually not what you need.

 

[zefarelly]

by all accounts all i do is drink tea and lie.

no offence but unfortunately that sums up at least 50% of estate agents perfectly

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

You do not have to pass any trade qualifications , you are not regulated. I am not talking about A Levels.

There is no obligation on the Estate Agent to give any training whatsoever and I could become an Estate Agent tomorrow. I did not say anything about drinking tea or lying, other people may have.

 

[Simster]

With regard to no qualifications, i needed A-Levels to get my job, and as there is no training required do you fancy covering for me this afternoon, by all accounts all i do is drink tea and lie.

For you to cover my job, you'll need to know Sybase SQL, be able to debug J2EE Java server code, you'll need to be comfortable managing Unix processes, have Unix scripting knowledge and be able to write VBA code that doesn't break and covers up some of the limitations that Excel has and runs quickly - important when dealing with memory intensive real time links.

For me to do yours, I'll need to know some phone numbers and how your filing cabinet is arranged.

And obviously, you'd need some school qualifications which I'm glad to see, you already have.

 

[zefarelly]

For you to cover my job, you'll need to know Sybase SQL, be able to debug J2EE Java server code, you'll need to be comfortable managing Unix processes, have Unix scripting knowledge and be able to write VBA code that doesn't break and covers up some of the limitations that Excel has and runs quickly - important when dealing with memory intensive real time links.

wrong thread !

 

[Chicken Run]

For you to cover my job, you'll need to know Sybase SQL, be able to debug J2EE Java server code, you'll need to be comfortable managing Unix processes, have Unix scripting knowledge and be able to write VBA code that doesn't break and covers up some of the limitations that Excel has and runs quickly - important when dealing with memory intensive real time links.

For me to do yours, I'll need to know some phone numbers and how your filing cabinet is arranged.

And obviously, you'd need some school qualifications which I'm glad to see, you already have.

You patronising bitch

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

CR - I have met some great estate agents, Graham Farthing at Austin Gray who work hard, know their trade and deserve their money I have met more that, shall we say are less than perfect.

My point is _ get your shit together mate and get regulated, noone will take you seriously until you do and you have a trade qualifaction

 

[Redhead]

For you to cover my job, you'll need to know Sybase SQL, be able to debug J2EE Java server code, you'll need to be comfortable managing Unix processes, have Unix scripting knowledge and be able to write VBA code that doesn't break and covers up some of the limitations that Excel has and runs quickly - important when dealing with memory intensive real time links.

For me to do yours, I'll need to know some phone numbers and how your filing cabinet is arranged.

And obviously, you'd need some school qualifications which I'm glad to see, you already have.

Its clear to me you're all set in your ways and i am not going to convince you that not all estate agents are liars, so if you'll excuse i'm going to make some tea, rob a granny and lie to a vicar!!! Have a nice day.

 

[Simster]

The bait was set, two estate agents replied, but couldn't actually tell me where I was wrong.

Says it all really.

Two bob "profession".

 

[zefarelly]

a lot of professions are 2 bit or 2 bob.

I know one estate agent who's good, hes definitely in a minority.

theres good and bad in any profession, bvy and large you get found out in most whereas there are still some that seem to attract incompetence and cover up for their dishonesty and failings, thats not just EA's

 

[Simster]

Oh and whilst I have experienced dishonesty (or half truths) and incompetence from estate agents in most of my dealings with them, my main gripes are actually a) that they don't offer value for money and b) as US says, they are unregulated.

 

[Redhead]

*Takes Bait And Wades Back In* You're arguement was Biggest Twats By Trade, You have stated you think that all estate agents (your sweeping statement) are Twats, if that it what you think and you are that narrow minded then i'm not going to waste my time telling you why my profession isn't two bob, Or why i'm not a Twat.

 

[Chicken Run]

CR - I have met some great estate agents, Graham Farthing at Austin Gray who work hard, know their trade and deserve their money I have met more that, shall we say are less than perfect.

My point is _ get your shit together mate and get regulated, noone will take you seriously until you do and you have a trade qualifaction

Graham Farthing
20 years ago I started in this industry, if you said to me then that we would still be buying & selling houses in the same fashion 20 years on I would'nt believe it and that includes mortgage and legal side of things oh and dont be smug about regulation, ceMap i think somwhere on my wall sits a cert. with that on! oh and maby FSVA

 

[Simster]

*Takes Bait And Wades Back In* You're arguement was Biggest Twats By Trade, You have stated you think that all estate agents (your sweeping statement) are Twats, if that it what you think and you are that narrow minded then i'm not going to waste my time telling you why my profession isn't two bob, Or why i'm not a Twat.

Eh? I didn't say YOU were a twat, I merely implied there are an awful lot of twats working as estate agents. I have had one experience of a very good estate agent (Haarts of Wimbledon) - but without exception, every single other estate agent I have ever dealt with (about 10) has turned out to be adept at telling half truths or lies - or just good old fashioned f***ing useless.

So go on then, what would prevent me from walking in off the street and doing your job if I knew the state of various negotiations and has access to your phone numbers and filing cabinet?

 

[Faldo]

any spelling certificates?