Biggest twats - by trade

[Chicken Run]

Eh? I didn't say YOU were a twat, I merely implied there are an awful lot of twats working as estate agents. I have had one experience of a very good estate agent (Haarts of Wimbledon) - but without exception, every single other estate agent I have ever dealt with (about 10) has turned out to be adept at telling half truths or lies - or just good old fashioned f***ing useless.

So go on then, what would prevent me from walking in off the street and doing your job if I knew the state of various negotiations and has access to your phone numbers and filing cabinet?

The money

 

[Chicken Run]

any spelling certificates?

know

 

[Dave the OAP]

no offence but unfortunately that sums up at least 50% of estate agents perfectly

actually I think that sums up 95% of jobs full stop!

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

CR - I did not get the jist of your thread, do you have CEMAP

 

[Skaville]

Its clear to me you're all set in your ways and i am not going to convince you that not all estate agents are liars, so if you'll excuse i'm going to make some tea, rob a granny and lie to a vicar!!! Have a nice day.

Redhead, just ignore it. I had an argument with BHA Express in a similar thread about recruitment consultants a few months ago. It took me ages to eventually get him to concede he was talking out of his arse by making huge sweeping generalisations and it was my least productive day this year.

There are plenty of skills that you need to be an estate agent. Many of them are intangible, like the ability to sell, (assertiveness, negotiation skills, communication skills etc). Lots of people assume that because they are intelligent they could sell, but it's certainly not as straightforward as that.

 

[Chicken Run]

Eh? I didn't say YOU were a twat, I merely implied there are an awful lot of twats working as estate agents. I have had one experience of a very good estate agent (Haarts of Wimbledon) - but without exception, every single other estate agent I have ever dealt with (about 10) has turned out to be adept at telling half truths or lies - or just good old fashioned f***ing useless.

So go on then, what would prevent me from walking in off the street and doing your job if I knew the state of various negotiations and has access to your phone numbers and filing cabinet?

Oh and the liars that are buyers and the hours 6 day week!

 

[Dave the OAP]

Redhead, just ignore it. I had an argument with BHA Express in a similar thread about recruitment consultants a few months ago. It took me ages to eventually get him to concede he was talking out of his arse by making huge sweeping generalisations and it was my least productive day this year.

OI Leave Frank alone...he cant help being a sad, bitter and twisted old beardy

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

I have always found it odd that Estate Agents think they need to sell or are salesmen.

If someone likes a property they will buy it , if they don;t they will not.

Estate Agents are not salesmen although most of them think they are, they market , appraise and match applicants to vendors.

That is the trick, putting a house on and knowing your applicants and thinking this house would suit Mr & Mrs Smith , going back to the office and calling them. Its not rocket science. The best estate agents do this, treat their clients well and work hard and fairly but salesmen don't make me laugh

 

[Skaville]

By bizarre coincidence, I just found out we have exchanged and I have a new house!

Bought it through Barrie Alderton - he's an example of an excellent estate agent. Thanks Barrie!

 

[Skaville]

I have always found it odd that Estate Agents think they need to sell or are salesmen.

If someone likes a property they will buy it , if they don;t they will not.

Estate Agents are not salesmen although most of them think they are, they market , appraise and match applicants to vendors.

That is the trick, putting a house on and knowing your applicants and thinking this house would suit Mr & Mrs Smith , going back to the office and calling them. Its not rocket science. The best estate agents do this, treat their clients well and work hard and fairly but salesmen don't make me laugh

Agreed, but much of selling is about listening skills and matching needs, overcoming objections etc. It's still very much a sales process.

 

[Redhead]

estate agents.

I'm sure there is at least one estate agent regular on here who will attempt to defend his piss poor no-qualifications-required "profession"...

So because you had to achieve qualifications you assume you ae now some high and mighty who can pass judgement on other professions, bad experiences doesn't make a bad profession maybe its you and any way the last bloke i meet who could use Sybase SQL, able to debug J2EE Java server code, who was comfortable managing Unix processes, have Unix scripting knowledge and able to write VBA code that doesn't break and covers up some of the limitations that Excel has and runs quickly - important when dealing with memory intensive real time links was rubbish!!!

 

[Chicken Run]

So at valuation stage the agent is selling her/his company and just as important themselves

 

[Early Doors]

I have always found it odd that Estate Agents think they need to sell or are salesmen.

If someone likes a property they will buy it , if they don;t they will not.

Estate Agents are not salesmen although most of them think they are, they market , appraise and match applicants to vendors.

That is the trick, putting a house on and knowing your applicants and thinking this house would suit Mr & Mrs Smith , going back to the office and calling them. Its not rocket science. The best estate agents do this, treat their clients well and work hard and fairly but salesmen don't make me laugh

That is exactly what a good salesperson should do, regardless of
what he sells. Find out what the customer wants/needs, find a siutable product, and offer it to the customer.
Anyone who spouts utter bullshit and pushes the customer is NOT a good salesman.
I should know, I am one (good one, not pushy )

 

[Redhead]

I have always found it odd that Estate Agents think they need to sell or are salesmen.

If someone likes a property they will buy it , if they don;t they will not.

Estate Agents are not salesmen although most of them think they are, they market , appraise and match applicants to vendors.

That is the trick, putting a house on and knowing your applicants and thinking this house would suit Mr & Mrs Smith , going back to the office and calling them. Its not rocket science. The best estate agents do this, treat their clients well and work hard and fairly but salesmen don't make me laugh

So what does a salesman do if the buyer doesn't want what they are selling? Estate Agents are salesman IMO.

 

[Skaville]

OI Leave Frank alone...he cant help being a sad, bitter and twisted old beardy

"beardy"? Surely you meant bastard?

 

[Early Doors]

Agreed, but much of selling is about listening skills and matching needs, overcoming objections etc. It's still very much a sales process.

Beat me to it!
Totally agree

 

[zefarelly]

therein lays the problem with estate agents, they try 'selling' and therefore end up lying because theyre talking out of their arses, you've only got to look at the oversized cheap suits they wear to notice that !

a good estate agent will recognise things about people and make associations, ask questions, acknowledge answers and match homes to familes etc.

you only have to look at the corporate players like F&S, Halifax etc to see they don't/can't do this . . . pop into any of their places and say your budget is £200k and you want 2 bedrooms . . .in a week you'll get details of anytrhing from a lock up to a 4 bed 500k detached house in an envelope. f***ing retards.

 

[Skaville]

a good estate agent will recognise things about people and make associations, ask questions, acknowledge answers and match homes to familes etc.

But if you ask anyone in a sales related role they will tell you that that the above is still selling...

 

[Early Doors]

''a good estate agent will recognise things about people and make associations, ask questions, acknowledge answers and match homes to familes etc.''



That is what selling is all about. When a good salesperson has sold you something, you won't feel he has sold to you, but that he has helped you find what you want.
Don't confuse good salepeople with the pushy type who won't f*** off and leave you alone

 

[Early Doors]

Beaten to it again