Diego Napier
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- Mar 27, 2010
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1. Tell me how they are not facts but are amazingly distorted and illogical views please?
2. If your stance against eating meat is ethical then Vegan is the only non hypocritical option. Of course there are loads of options. You can eat what you like for all I care but vegetarianism does not IMHO stand scrutiny if followed in the name of animal welfare.
Here a short selection of thoughts about your "facts":
"1. A cow has to have a calf to produce milk. If we want milk, cheese etc but we don't eat beef then these calves (which go on to be reared for beef) would be shot at birth. What's the gain in that?"
a. Not all vegetarians consume milk, cheese etc.
b. Calves don't need to be shot at birth if they are not going to be used to produce milk
c. Artificial insemination?
2. Many veggies and vegans will (with good reason I would suggest) choose organic veg. It is not possible to produce organic food without the manures from livestock. So no meat = no organic production = More oil based pesticide and fertilisers = even more miserable veggies.
a. It is possible to produce organic food without manure
b. Manure can be used from livestock that isn't bred for consumption
c. Fertilisers don't need to be oil based
Your thought processes on this subject have been conditioned and constrained by what has become common farming practice and your "arguments" are imprecise and very selective