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y was not on the ballot papers at the referendum, just leave. The referendum was in 2016. The GE was in 2017. Soames stood on a manifesto of leaving the EU smoothly and orderly. In 2019 a new executive is attempting to leave the EU roughly and disorderly.

If an executive is formed on the basis of obtaining x (a deal), but then deviates to pursue y (no deal), and MPs continue to pursue x, who is behaving honourably?

If you voted for Soames in 2017 you voted for a deal, he tried to get this for you. You writing to him letting him know you think that he is a disgrace for trying to achieve exactly why you voted for him in the first place will likely make him think he is far better out of all of this.

Sir Nicholas Soames was last elected on the basis of the 2017 Tory manifesto which stated we would leave the EU smoothly and orderly with a deal. He voted for this every time. It can very fairly and correctly said he had been representing and respecting his constituents wishes in Parliament.

Wow, we have reached a new nadir. Literally accusations of talking with a European (and not accepting at face value the words of a pathological liar, albeit British) is enough to be labelled as a traitor and hung as a result. Some people are just itching for blood to be spilled. :nono:

:shrug: Sounds to me like he wanted to be sure what he was/wasn't voting for?

If he loses the GE, I wonder where he will fit in to the all-time top three worst PMs? 1. Dave 2. May 3. Johnson

Yes, I think that’s unlikely though (there have already been rumours they would offer an extension even before we ask for one), particularly as they know an extension would allow for a GE to happen, and thanks to the likes of Soames it wouldn’t be our doing.

If they refuse to extend we have two options the WA or no deal.

To be fair to Johnson/Cummings, in other similar countries when you vote against the ruling party you get taken out; Soames should be thankful.

He also voted for the WA three times.

Why are you struggling to grasp this idea?

Hopefully he will stand as an independent, although I suspect not.

:shrug: The WA is a good deal for the UK.

The ERG Tory MPs, who voted against this commitment:

Ah, you mean the Tory ERG MPs who continually voted against leaving the EU, smoothly and orderly with a deal, in stark contrast with the wishes of their constituents who voted for them on the basis they would vote for leaving the EU smoothly and orderly with a deal. Gotcha :thumbsup:

Which Tory MPs are you referring too?

I can't belive Mogg used the word 'remoaner', I thought he had more class than that; clearly rattled.

He was last elected on the basis of the 2017 Tory manifesto which stated we would leave the EU smoothly and orderly with a deal. He voted for this every time. It can very fairly and correctly said he had been representing his constituents wishes in Parliament.

I see Sir Nicolas Soames is down to vote against no deal and therfore be kicked out of the Tory party. Living in Mid-Sussex I hope he stands as an independent.