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Marc

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Jul 6, 2003
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there is some quality High Horse Riding going on in this thread!
 




wehatepalace

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Apr 27, 2004
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I never realised that, shows how much I swear on here.

I can't help it, I can't leave this, I know I should.

If I caused 2k's worth of damage (the cost of my bike) to each of say 10 cars in a line.
Would those car owners laugh and chalk it up to high spirits, whilst shrugging it off saying 'well nobody was hurt'.
Thrown at speed into a hedge that ISN'T made of feathers and kittens is no guarentee that nobody was hurt.
Now you are starting to make yourself look a little bit silly, why are you talking about causing damage ? That doesn't even come into it, do you not think if one of the bikes had been damaged it would have been mentioned ?
I really am surprised by your attitude SB as i've always thought you to have been one of the more intelligent and reasonable posters on here, but you really do seem to have the bit between the teeth on this one and now you're going of on a tangent with no real reason to do so.
 


TWOCHOICEStom

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Sep 22, 2007
10,919
Brighton
I never realised that, shows how much I swear on here.

I can't help it, I can't leave this, I know I should.

If I caused 2k's worth of damage (the cost of my bike) to each of say 10 cars in a line.
Would those car owners laugh and chalk it up to high spirits, whilst shrugging it off saying 'well nobody was hurt'.
Thrown at speed into a hedge that ISN'T made of feathers and kittens is no guarentee that nobody was hurt.

But in all seriousness... a cyclist falling into a hedge wearing lycra, orange sunglasses, with a two grand bike in between his legs whilst fixed to the pedals with those silly shoes is bloody hilarious isn't it....
 


I don't think he particularly is, wehatepalace. So far this thread seems to be

cyclehaters: hahaha well funny innit
cyclists (and other reasonable people): err no, it was a stupid dangerous act that could have injured someone and caused damage.

If I was in a car, and I drove up behind you, beeped my horn and forced you to drive off into a bush, would that be funny? Or is it only funny because the people that do it wear lycra? What about if you were in your car wearing lycra? Would it be funny then?
 


wehatepalace

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I don't think he particularly is, wehatepalace. So far this thread seems to be

cyclehaters: hahaha well funny innit
cyclists (and other reasonable people): err no, it was a stupid dangerous act that could have injured someone and caused damage.

If I was in a car, and I drove up behind you, beeped my horn and forced you to drive off into a bush, would that be funny? Or is it only funny because the people that do it wear lycra? What about if you were in your car wearing lycra? Would it be funny then?
Have you been spying on me Sten ? Lycra driving is a secret fetish of mine.

Don't get me wrong, I can see his point but at no point in the article does it say there was intent to hurt, injure or kill anyone nor does it say that any of the cyclists bikes were damaged !
Of course if any of that HAD happened then it would be a different and much more serious story.
It's a bit like saying that I COULD drive out of my house and mow down a group of innocent NUNS in their habits, who were half way across the pedestrian crossing.
I doubt I would but I could !
 




Have you been spying on me Sten ? Lycra driving is a secret fetish of mine.

Don't get me wrong, I can see his point but at no point in the article does it say there was intent to hurt, injure or kill anyone nor does it say that any of the cyclists bikes were damaged !
Of course if any of that HAD happened then it would be a different and much more serious story.
It's a bit like saying that I COULD drive out of my house and mow down a group of innocent NUNS in their habits, who were half way across the pedestrian crossing.
I doubt I would but I could !

I suspect it's a point of view thing. As a cyclist, I'm always aware of the fact I'm a very vulnerable road user. I constantly see both cyclists and motorists behave in a very dangerous fashion, endangering both themselves and other road users. Anything that encourages or 'normalises' dangerous driving, and therefore puts me at more risk, gets my back up.

I should say I entirely empathise with drivers that get annoyed with cyclists. A significant minority are complete burkes and very dangerous. However, it works both ways, and drivers should be as considerate and sensible as they expect cyclists to be.

*gets down from soapbox*
 


itszamora

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Sep 21, 2003
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Evidently Martin has been a bit of a twat here. However equally as a road user and a pedestrian I would say the majority of cyclists I encounter in my travels do NOT adhere to the most basic rules of the road. I have seen them riding the wrong way down one way streets, riding on the wrong side of the road, jumping red lights, having no lights on their bike at 4 in the morning and a variety of other idiotic things - along with my absolute personal favourite which is cycling on the pavement and using pedestrian crossings. THIS is why motorists get pissed off with cyclists, and why although as stated above Martin was a twat, I can see where he's coming from.
 








CheeseRolls

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Jan 27, 2009
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Evidently Martin has been a bit of a twat here. However equally as a road user and a pedestrian I would say the majority of cyclists I encounter in my travels do NOT adhere to the most basic rules of the road. I have seen them riding the wrong way down one way streets, riding on the wrong side of the road, jumping red lights, having no lights on their bike at 4 in the morning and a variety of other idiotic things - along with my absolute personal favourite which is cycling on the pavement and using pedestrian crossings. THIS is why motorists get pissed off with cyclists, and why although as stated above Martin was a twat, I can see where he's coming from.

This was a bunch of people who had deliberately chosen to use roads, without traffic lights, one way systems and for the most part traffic. Regardless of their fashion attire, they seem about as harmless a bunch as you could possibly imagine.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but the joy of this "prank" is that the electric car has superb acceleration and is virtually silent. Said chubby cook will likely get a less than friendly reception on the road for years to come.

My personal recommendation to anyone offended by said antic is to sneak up behind him in public, yell twat very loudly in his ear and run off. A totally childish yet appropriate response to the Mail on Sunday motoring correspondent.
 


itszamora

Go Jazz Go
Sep 21, 2003
7,282
London
This was a bunch of people who had deliberately chosen to use roads, without traffic lights, one way systems and for the most part traffic. Regardless of their fashion attire, they seem about as harmless a bunch as you could possibly imagine.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but the joy of this "prank" is that the electric car has superb acceleration and is virtually silent. Said chubby cook will likely get a less than friendly reception on the road for years to come.

My personal recommendation to anyone offended by said antic is to sneak up behind him in public, yell twat very loudly in his ear and run off. A totally childish yet appropriate response to the Mail on Sunday motoring correspondent.

Hence why I say he's been a bit of a twat. However my point is the actions of a number of cyclists (and quite a large number in my experience) result in them all being considered self-righteous imbeciles who are a danger to themselves and others.
 




Cheeky Monkey

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Jul 17, 2003
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Hence why I say he's been a bit of a twat. However my point is the actions of a number of cyclists (and quite a large number in my experience) result in them all being considered self-righteous imbeciles who are a danger to themselves and others.

Tis true, and I'm a cyclist. We're caught between a cock and a hard place on this one really. There are arseholes behind the wheel and there are arseholes behind handlebars, there are also fantastic, considerate drivers and fantastic, law abiding cyclists...
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
Thats hilarious, i so hope i get the chance to do the same sometime soon, lycra clad twats

Tell you what if it is so funny how about you let someone throw you in to a bush at twenty miles an hour (this is how fast a group of cyclists is likely to be moving). It may not be so funny then. It would hurt a lot, if they hit the tarmac it is likely to lead to broken collar bones, at the very least a large amount of road rash. No where in Martin's article does it say he stopped to check no one was injured so how do you know no one was hurt?

Is it funny if I tell you that the other day I snuck up behind this chav kid in Churchill Square then pushed him down the escalator? Chav kids are twats after all. Pretty much no one likes them, so it must be justified right? It wouldn't hurt them THAT much?
 


Nibble

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Jan 3, 2007
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I cycled the B road route from London to Brighton two weeks ago and noticed that while on the country lanes and roads despite a fair bit of traffic the drivers were very courteous and gave me plenty of thrift but anytime I went through a town, especially arriving in Brighton their attitudes change and they suddenly hate you.
 




Skint Gull

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Is it funny if I tell you that the other day I snuck up behind this chav kid in Churchill Square then pushed him down the escalator? Chav kids are twats after all. Pretty much no one likes them, so it must be justified right? It wouldn't hurt them THAT much?

That's the spirit! If you get rid of all the chav's, i'll get rid of all the cyclists, all we need now is someone to get rid of that lot that always want to bomb people and the country will be just about perfect! :thumbsup:
 


TWOCHOICEStom

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Sep 22, 2007
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Brighton
Tell you what if it is so funny how about you let someone throw you in to a bush at twenty miles an hour (this is how fast a group of cyclists is likely to be moving). It may not be so funny then. It would hurt a lot, if they hit the tarmac it is likely to lead to broken collar bones, at the very least a large amount of road rash.

This is brilliant :laugh:
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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I'M BACK!!.

Now you are starting to make yourself look a little bit silly, why are you talking about causing damage ? As said further down, I would have thought it would be difficult not to cause damge That doesn't even come into it, do you not think if one of the bikes had been damaged it would have been mentioned ? In this kind of situation I doubt any rider would have been able to get the car details
I really am surprised by your attitude SB as i've always thought you to have been one of the more intelligent and reasonable posters on here, Thank you, that's very kind, I do try but you really do seem to have the bit between the teeth on this one Yeah I have, it's an important one for me, I ride 1000's of miles a year and now you're going of on a tangent with no real reason to do so.

I've given this a great deal of reflective thought and have decided I'm still 100% right. :lol:
But I will add a few caviates (sp).
When I find it, I'll post the youtube clip of George Hincapie falling sideways down a ditch, because he has bonked (run out of all energy), that's funny.
Had the cyclists been right across the road, on pavement etc, then they 'would have had it coming'.
But this comes across as an innocent group of cyclists on the road, being targeted, intentionally by a man in a machine, capable of doing serious damage.
 






adrian29uk

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Sep 10, 2003
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Please I wish the goverment would charge me 10 quid a year road tax to ride my bike on top of my road tax. I would like see this money invested in cycle lanes so f***ing morons like him can't push people off the road.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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This thread is typical of why not just NSC but England in general is becoming sterile and boring.

So many f***ing twats get on their high f***ing horse about a tongue-in-cheek piece in some tucked-away colour supplement.

I couldn't give two hoots one way or the other. There are enough accidents on country roads arising from blinkered drivers, deluded speed-freak motorcyclists and cyclists who think they're Mark Cavendish or Chris Hoy to make everyone a guilty party, but it's always got to be black or white on here, and it's soooo DULL.
 


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