[Misc] Why Christianity needs to give its head a wobble

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Thunder Bolt

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I'm not sure that's entirely true. There is no contemporaneous evidence and Jesus was a very popular name - Judas and Jacob both being versions of the same name. The only written source is by Josephus and most scholars agree the reference was a much later Christian addition to the text.
I agree with your second point.
The Hebrew equivalent is Yeshua or Joshua.
 


Boys 9d

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Shirley, the name Jesus is Spanish as it is very popular in Spanish speaking countries?
 


ConfusedGloryHunter

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But did they? Really? Proof?
There is some evidence to suggest that there was a bloke called Jesus who led a jewish sect. So yes, if he existed then he must havr been born and also eventually died somehow. Anything in addition depends on how much credence you want to give to religious beliefs.
 




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It’s all a conspiracy involving Big Calendar, they have to keep shifting it to make you keep buying calendars

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(In some cases, they resort to theft to keep the sales up too)
 


ConfusedGloryHunter

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The Roman calendar was originally created in 753 BC, and was used until the introduction of the Anno Domini calendar in AD 525 by Dionysius Exiguus, adapting a calendar devised by Diocletian in AD 247. The calendar was created by counting the number of years since the foundation of the city of Rome.
Dionysius also added in the names of consuls which added accuracy, although the 'leap years' hadn't yet been taken into account.

So the Christian calendar has been in use for over 1800 years. Only just recently has AD & BC been dropped by those who prefer CE and BCE.
Thanks but I'll stick with the Gregorian calendar from 1582AD but you can crack on with your Julian one if you like.
 


Dorset Seagull

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Reminds me of a Ricky Gervais interview I saw recently. He said as an atheist he didn't believe in any of the 3000 Gods. His interviewer was a christian so it was pointed out that he believed in one God. Ricky concluded that they were both very similar in their beliefs as he didn't believe in 3000 Gods and the interviewer didn't believe in only one less at 2999!
 






ConfusedGloryHunter

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The number of years is exactly the same. 2025.
What are you blithering on about? The calendar we use was created in 1582 AD under pope Gregory XIII. The events concerning Jesus are a bit after 1 AD. Therefore the calendar that we use today was created a little over 1500 years after he died.
 


Thunder Bolt

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What are you blithering on about? The calendar we use was created in 1582 AD under pope Gregory XIII. The events concerning Jesus are a bit after 1 AD. Therefore the calendar that we use today was created a little over 1500 years after he died.
The Gregorian calendar was changed from the Julian calendar, because scientists realised there were 365 days plus 6hours in a year, and so leap years were invented to keep the seasons on track. 10 days went missing to catch up.
The number of years AD wasn't changed hence 2025.
 




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It’s a moving Feast.
 


jcdenton08

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Reminds me of a Ricky Gervais interview I saw recently. He said as an atheist he didn't believe in any of the 3000 Gods. His interviewer was a christian so it was pointed out that he believed in one God. Ricky concluded that they were both very similar in their beliefs as he didn't believe in 3000 Gods and the interviewer didn't believe in only one less at 2999!
It’s all very well and good but Gervais used to be a comedian/actor. Now it just feels like he’s a full time atheist. Fair enough for his beliefs but it’s very boring!
 


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The Roman calendar was originally created in 753 BC, and was used until the introduction of the Anno Domini calendar in AD 525 by Dionysius Exiguus, adapting a calendar devised by Diocletian in AD 247. The calendar was created by counting the number of years since the foundation of the city of Rome.
Dionysius also added in the names of consuls which added accuracy, although the 'leap years' hadn't yet been taken into account.

So the Christian calendar has been in use for over 1800 years. Only just recently has AD & BC been dropped by those who prefer CE and BCE.
And @Diocletian has terrific taste in music.
 




ConfusedGloryHunter

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The Gregorian calendar was changed from the Julian calendar, because scientists realised there were 365 days plus 6hours in a year, and so leap years were invented to keep the seasons on track. 10 days went missing to catch up.
The number of years AD wasn't changed hence 2025.
Why do you keep talking about how many years it is now since 1 AD?

I said the calendar that we use now was created about 1500 years after Jesus.

The calendar that we use now was created in 1582 AD. Is that or is that not a little over 1500 years since 1 AD?

Come on now, you have clearly just googled all about the Gregorian calendar. All you need to do now is some basic maths.

You can do it, I may not believe in any god, but I believe in you.
 


Gabbafella

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I work for a religious bunch called the brethren, it's the most time I've ever spent with people of faith and they are the worst people I've ever met.
Their moral compass is so skewed, life is all about storing as much cash as possible at the expense of everyone around them, they're racist, homophobic, misogynistic and they pick and choose what part of the bible best suits their agenda that day.
They don't believe in dinosaurs ffs. They reckon it's all a myth and fake bones have been put there to test your faith in god.
 


Thunder Bolt

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Why do you keep talking about how many years it is now since 1 AD?

I said the calendar that we use now was created about 1500 years after Jesus.

The calendar that we use now was created in 1582 AD. Is that or is that not a little over 1500 years since 1 AD?

Come on now, you have clearly just googled all about the Gregorian calendar. All you need to do now is some basic maths.

You can do it, I may not believe in any god, but I believe in you.
It was adjusted in 1582 not created.
 








1066familyman

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Orthodox Christians celebrate Christmas as a religious festival on the 7th January.
Ah, but, 'do they know it's Christmas time at all' ?
 


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