Where should immigrants go? population densitys

[Tom Bombadil]

Thats the latest lefty fantasy, cover up the failure of there failed feminist policies with lots of lovely coloured people.

What failed feminist policies would those be? I wasn't aware that there'd been a leftwing government in this country in the last 25 years

 

[looney]

No but it was labour who passed the abortion act(I missed it by 3 months), and champion womens priveledge to choose(lefties like to call this a right).

FTR
The number of abortions each year equal the shortfall in the birth rate , 2.1 .

 

[Herne Hill Seagull]

BTW
"Speak the loudest "can only refer to a public Oral forum. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time.

Pedant. I was typing metaphorically.

Fridge Man, who decides, and by what criteria, who is genuine? A quick 'phone call to the government concerned? "Excuse me Mr Mugabe, if we sent these people back forcibly will you torture, imprison or otherwise inconvenience them in any way? No? Well, off they go then!"

That, just for starters, is why this issue is difficult. The very fact that you think this can be resolved so simply serves only to illustrate my earlier point.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

well how come we still have a number of unemployed people in this country then?

Employment in the UK has increased by almost 1.5 million since early 1997 and is at near record levels with 28 million people in work (Labour Force Survey). New jobs continue to be created in a dynamic and flexible labour market.

Unemployment in the UK remains at historically low levels. Long-term unemployment has fallen by 75% since 1997, while youth unemployment is down by 80%.

 

[REDLAND]

Employment in the UK has increased by almost 1.5 million since early 1997 and is at near record levels with 28 million people in work (Labour Force Survey). New jobs continue to be created in a dynamic and flexible labour market.

Unemployment in the UK remains at historically low levels. Long-term unemployment has fallen by 75% since 1997, while youth unemployment is down by 80%.

Indeed, generally unemployment can be split in to groups,

Those that can't work, single parents, disabled etc

And those that don't want to,

generally there is work if you want it may notbe 100% suited but whats pride if ya can't feed ya family ?

 

[Lord Bracknell]

it was labour who passed the abortion act

No it wasn't. It was a Private Members' Bill introduced by David Steel.

 

[looney]

I dont know where to begin with those dodgy figures bracknell. Joke

Most of those extra are part time, as for dynamic and flexible labour market thats slowing down.

Youth unemployment halved prior to 97 from 92, why choose that year? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Most of that which you posted is cyclical change or long term trend. Theres a lot of spin on gov web sites.

 

[Dandyman]

No but it was labour who passed the abortion act(I missed it by 3 months), and champion womens priveledge to choose(lefties like to call this a right).

FTR
The number of abortions each year equal the shortfall in the birth rate , 2.1 .

The Abortion Act was passed under Labour and put forward by a young Liberal backbencher called David Steel.

Are you now pals with the Pope and Bin Laden, Looney, or would you allow for the possibility that a woman might be a better judge of whether a temination is the choice she should make rather than a tree worshiping twat in a dress ?

 

[looney]

No it wasn't. It was a Private Members' Bill introduced by David Steel.

Political PMB's stand or fall on the composition of the commons.

QED lefties.

 

[Kneon Light]

"Global birthrates are faqlling and its harming there own countries."

This isn't true. Whilst falling birth rates cause problems in some countries (mainly richer countries who lose workforce, get an aging population etc) other countries are benefitting tremendously by having a falling birth rate as it has enabled them to develop economically. A population with too large a percentage of children has the same problems as an aging pop. (ie they need looking after). China would not have introduced a one child policy if a falling birth rate was bad for them.

 

[Fridge Man]

I think that there would be a very different view to this debate if it was in Dover or Oldham or Birmingham or any other place which has a high population of asylum seekers

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Returning to the theme of the thread...

The reason we're talking about employment is that the country needs a BIGGER workforce and immigrants can contribute to that. There aren't enough unemployed people to allow the economy grow to the size that will sustain the increasing numbers of older people who have left the workforce.

Another thing that needs to happen is for the government to do something to reverse the tendency for more and more of the nation's surplus wealth to be put into increased house prices.

Tax land profits now!

 

[looney]

Dandyman
Didn't give my veiw did I?

It is the EQUAL right to choose.

Want to debate it? You'l lose.


Bin laden? Heh, yea think ill grow a beard.

 

[REDLAND]

I think that there would be a very different view to this debate if it was in Dover or Oldham or Birmingham or any other place which has a high population of asylum seekers

Very dangerous to come on here and suggest we are all Nimbys Fridge Man !!,

 

[looney]

"Global birthrates are faqlling and its harming there own countries."

This isn't true. Whilst falling birth rates cause problems in some countries (mainly richer countries who lose workforce, get an aging population etc) other countries are benefitting tremendously by having a falling birth rate as it has enabled them to develop economically. A population with too large a percentage of children has the same problems as an aging pop. (ie they need looking after). China would not have introduced a one child policy if a falling birth rate was bad for them.

Yes it is true.

look it up yourself http://www.statistics.gov.uk/

 

[Fridge Man]

well im afraid to say that you are Ive noticed that a lot especially around the south for example they were going to put that asylum seeker camp in the sticks in oxfordshire and then sudenly their was uproar even that toya who went on im a celebrity protested against it. I reckon they were the same as you saying how wonderfull mass immigration is untill they actually had to see the people

 

[Dandyman]

I think that there would be a very different view to this debate if it was in Dover or Oldham or Birmingham or any other place which has a high population of asylum seekers

For what reason exactly ? Resources being taken up by refugees or just simple racism ?

 

[bhaexpress]

Put 'em all in the next banana boat home I say, Grrr !

 

[Fridge Man]

resources primarily it must be hard to bare seeing asylum seekers getting pushed to the front of the queue for health care and council houses, I think it unfair to say that everyone in these parts are racist dandyman

 

[Herne Hill Seagull]

I think that there would be a very different view to this debate if it was in Dover or Oldham or Birmingham or any other place which has a high population of asylum seekers

Geography is irrelevant on here - this is a virtual location remember, people post on here from very different areas already. How many of us live in areas of 98% white Anglo Saxons with blond hair and blue eyes? Zero, I suspect.

In any case, are you suggesting that living in an area with a high proportion of asylum seekers somehow makes somebody's views more relevant or credible? A racist, an asylum seeker and a 'loony left wing feminist' may all live in the same bloody street for Christ's sake.