Where should immigrants go? population densitys

[looney]

Oh great! one lefty offers a heard of others to back him up as proof.

As I said the resent trend has been a revision on those types of arguements, I suggest you check that list again.

Famine is not correlated with empire, a lot of those are just socio-economic studies.

Have you read all them?

 

[looney]

Well you would expect a demographics proffessor to be a member of an org thats concerned with birth rates?


Clue

Eugenics is defunct thats why it is no longer called the eugenics society.

Eugenics began on the left, does that mean your all culpable?pfffffft.

 

[Dandyman]

Well you would expect a demographics proffessor to be a member of an org thats concerned with birth rates?


Clue

Eugenics is defunct thats why it is no longer called the eugenics society.

Eugenics began on the left, does that mean your all culpable?pfffffft.

Eugencis is about more than birth rates, surely ?

My understanding is that historically it is linked to views on creating a "pure" race.

Who on the left began it ?

 

[looney]

Its not about Eugenics any more hence the change in name yonks ago.

No it wasn't about racial purity but about getting rid of genetic defects, the USa and sweden ran the largest eugenics programs outside nazi Germany.


Cant think of many names of the top of my head, try Rudolph Stiener.

 

[looney]

Oh and eugenics doesn't hav a specifc inventor, its like saying who invented philosophy?

 

[Dandyman]

Oh and eugenics doesn't hav a specifc inventor, its like saying who invented philosophy?

So, why say the left began it ?

As far as I understand it sterilisation programmes in Sweden and the USA were used against the mentally ill and African- Americans.

I won't make the obvious comments about the link between eugenics and Nazi "racial science".

 

[Tom Bombadil]

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There are 1.6 million Roma/pikeys about to become EU citizens in Jan QUOTE]

Looney that is offensive racism. I know many people on here deny that the Uk's Gypsey's are an ethnic group, but the Roma of central Europe definitaly are and have suffered and are still suffering persecution. I think it illustrates the racist agenda behind your arguments.

 

[London Calling]

 

[looney]

[
There are 1.6 million Roma/pikeys about to become EU citizens in Jan QUOTE]

Looney that is offensive racism. I know many people on here deny that the Uk's Gypsey's are an ethnic group, but the Roma of central Europe definitaly are and have suffered and are still suffering persecution. I think it illustrates the racist agenda behind your arguments.

As Ive pointed out you dont think. Pikey is in common usage here so it just shows how desperate your getting.

Apart from the "Roma" which is a specific, issue Ive just talked in numbers, your the ones squealing about race. And thats not just the lefties either.

It doesn't matter if there black white purple or green, they all need somewhere to live, food work etc. Race dont come into it until racial violence erupts, etc but thats not the issue of this thread. Its about capacity, if this was Australia or the U.S I wouldn't be raising the issue.

Do you know what a political fetish is?

Dandy
My reading has it that certain writers advocated an interventionalist state that would improve the human condition, some advocated eugenics.

This is leftwing bt true some were on the right.

 

[fatbadger]

Oh great! one lefty offers a heard of others to back him up as proof.

As I said the resent trend has been a revision on those types of arguements, I suggest you check that list again.

Famine is not correlated with empire, a lot of those are just socio-economic studies.

Have you read all them?

No, they were provided by a friend of mine, a (right-wing) historian of the British Empire, who thought you could do with actually reading some research on the subject, rather than just spouting a load of uninformed opinions based on what you would wish to be the case due to your prejudices.

 

[looney]

I haven't spouted anything on the empire, I'm just stating that there are a lot of skewed veiws around., Theres good and bad in most things. I'm not saying empires are morally defendable, I'm saying it wasn't all bad.

 

[fatbadger]

I haven't spouted anything on the empire, I'm just stating that there are a lot of skewed veiws around., Theres good and bad in most things. I'm not saying empires are morally defendable, I'm saying it wasn't all bad.

"They bang on about how Britain exploited other countries with out any idea of the level of investment in those countries infrastructure etc."


"That is a red herring(excuse the pun),

The question you should be asking, or answering is.

1 Are those countries economically(GDP or GVA) better of than before.

2 What are the productivities differentials?

You could just as easily say that The south of England exploited the North as The South is now much more wealthy than before.

Remember we began arriving in India at the beggining of the industrial revolution so you would expect a degree of parity, also the defusion of technology in those times was a lot slower(if at all) so you would expect a big gap at the end.

Also bare in mind the structure of those economies and wealth is more easily/quickly generated form industry than agriculture."

 

[looney]

Nice try einstien but thats in responce to someone elses comments.

They bang on about how Britain exploited other countries with out any idea of the level of investment in those countries infrastructure etc."

Thats a critique of the "left"

Splitting hairs now?

 

[Tom Bombadil]

As Ive pointed out you dont think. Pikey is in common usage here so it just shows how desperate your getting.

No I'm not letting you off the hook on this one looney. As you well know Pikey is a derogative term used with close associations with travellers in the UK. You have connected that word with a recognised ethnic group of Central Europe. What you have done is comparable to writing Asians/pakis or Israeli's/kikes. It is offensive and racist .

 

[fatbadger]

Nice try einstien but thats in responce to someone elses comments.

It doesn't make any difference who you were responding to, you dunce, you still 'spouted' opinions on the Empire.

If that is the level your debating skills have dropped to, I'm giving up now. Pity - in the past you have been known to actually post to odd good debating point. But when you become this weak, it's like kicking a cat - too easy.

Bye for now.

 

[looney]

Pikeys are a social group, if not what racial group?

Heh as for Travellers that term includes showmen/funfairs, they call themselves travellers and they call gypo's pikeys, they call house dwellers joskins.
I used to work on the fair, am I a Pikey?

True I dont like "pikies" but thats cos of my personal experiance of em, if I met a pikey now I'd give him/it the benefit of the doubt but still.


I dont go around refering to blacks as nignogs or whatever but pikeys are ****s.

btw
Your a Didlo or a Gauga.

Now f*** off.

 

[looney]

It doesn't make any difference who you were responding to, you dunce, you still 'spouted' opinions on the Empire.

If that is the level your debating skills have dropped to, I'm giving up now. Pity - in the past you have been known to actually post to odd good debating point. But when you become this weak, it's like kicking a cat - too easy.

Bye for now.

There not opinions Ive seen some of the data ref investment e.g .£5 million was spent by the chancellor on the Ugandan railways 1890's.


Yea go on, run away stimpy but try not to trip over your bottom lip while your going.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Pikeys are a social group, if not what racial group?

Heh as for Travellers that term includes showmen/funfairs, they call themselves travellers and they call gypo's pikeys, they call house dwellers joskins.
I used to work on the fair, am I a Pikey?

True I dont like "pikies" but thats cos of my personal experiance of em, if I met a pikey now I'd give him/it the benefit of the doubt but still.


I dont go around refering to blacks as nignogs or whatever but pikeys are ****s.

btw
Your a Didlo or a Gauga.

Now f*** off.

You really don't get it do you? You are using an offensive term to describe a recognised ethnic group (Roma). That is racism.

 

[looney]

OK I'll admit to that. Seeing I won every other arguement in this thread.

So do you no any pikey awareness courses I can sign up for?

Btw
Can remember chasing a gang of pikeys of the fairground in Reading who were causing shit.

Now go and play in the traffic Herman before I grab your Amish beard, tie it to a lamp post and leave you bent over there for safeway to play rocking horses on .

 

[Lord Bracknell]

So do you no any pikey awareness courses I can sign up for?

This is a serious issue that's being discussed in some government circles.

Not your favourite lefty government, but here:-
Office of the Northern Ireland First Minister and Deputy First Minister