WHAT THE F**K IS GOING ON - Mr McGhee, are you there???

[Mr Burns]

The vast majority of teams when relegated stay relegated.
We not only went straight back up but got a shed load of money from the playoffs which helped keep us afloat but also stayed in this division.

Again look where Rotherham, Gillingham, Bristol City and Swindon are and then thank your lucky stars we have DK and MM.

Fair enough. But I've think you've partly answered it by mentioning Dick Knight, and Martin Perry may I add. We can't always look to the past, as we are now in the present. My orginal point is, and posted before todays game, should a manager whose team is missing 9 1st teamers, drop a further two experienced players, giving a goalkeeper a debut, who only last week he clearly said he had on confidence in?

Besides most of the teams you mention are there for finanical reasons, something our chairman has kept on top off.

 

[Simster]

Sorry Simper, I really doubt you do know much about football with utterly embarassing comments like Southampton are crap and all we had to do is turn up with our reserves and youth teamers and take a point off them.

We were forced to clear the ball a lot because a superior technical team was putting us under so much pressure. If we had played from through the swift midfield legs of Mayo and Chippy, they would have picked the ball off us at will, we would have got beat 5-1 and then you would have something to whinge about.

Frankly, TLO is very entitled to get impatient with the utterly childish level of debate on here at times.

This evening, we should be united in praise of a performance by our depleted squad full of team spirit and passion in the great, great adversity of ten players out. But instead we still get the same old magoo out rubbish. Pathetic.

Unlike you, I've been playing and watching the game since before it became fashionable. That fact alone, doesn't make you a clown but the fact that your small brain can't cope with an opposing opinion does (along with your racism obviously). Some people seemingly can't cope with the fact that this is a messageboard, not the stadium. If you have grievance, it should be the place to air them.

Anyway, here is my opinion: the goal was always going to come in the second half because we had absolutely no outlet. That is my opinion. It was working a treat in the first half because McCammon was winning everything and holding the up ball superbly. If he could run with the ball at his feet, he'd truly be a QUALITY player on that form. But in the second half, Butters in particular was hoofing the ball either into the stands or straight up the middle. We had no width for passing across the back, and when we did get the ball at full back, it was a hoof down the line (& into touch). No-one in the middle moved to create an option.

I think got it wrong. I think our full backs were told not to overlap and press on. Our midfielders often held back when counterattacking. Why? Their left back was absolute shite and Frutos could have taken the piss if given a chance.

I make no apologies if holding this opinion means you think I'm a disloyal traitor. To be fair, I suspect you don't think that, but it is that sort of attitude that gets on my nerves.

 

[Gritt23]

I agree Yorkie. Overall, we are not far off.

Last season we regarded as a success when we stayed up. We are not many points of being in a position to repeat that this season, which following the key depatures over the last 12 months has to be another massive success IF we pull it off.

The production line that the youth system has become is continuing to produce players. That would be one thing if we were League 2 level, but to be producing players who can hold their own at Championship level, really is quite exceptional.

 

[Yorkie]

Where did he say he had no confidence in Chaigneau please?
Do we know whether FDM was carrying a slight injury?
Do we know anything for sure?

 

[Simster]

I like being embarrassing.

Apologies for the personal attack, BTW. I just wish some people would have more respect for opposing points of view on all matters Albion. I agree with a lot of what McGhee does, but we should be able to express our opinions on here without fear of being tarred as a traitor.

 

[Yorkie]

Apologies for the personal attack, BTW. I just wish some people would have more respect for opposing points of view on all matters Albion. I agree with a lot of what McGhee does, but we should be able to express our opinions on here without fear of being tarred as a traitor.

Apology accepted and no offence taken. I actually agreed with TLO's general points in that post rather than every individual word.

 

[nobody's dupe]

Again look where Rotherham, Gillingham, Bristol City and Swindon are . . . . . . .

Exactly Yorkie. That's what a lot of people posting on this thread are worried about. They don't want to join them.

I don't believe McGhee should be sacked. It is too late. He should have gone at the end of October when a new manager would have had the time to save the situation. We are stuck with him until the end of the season. Let's hope that he fulfils the faith that many of you have in him.

 

[nobody's dupe]

Do we know whether FDM was carrying a slight injury?
Do we know anything for sure?

He was dropped!

 

[Yorkie]

Exactly Yorkie. That's what a lot of people posting on this thread are worried about. They don't want to join them.

I don't believe McGhee should be sacked. It is too late. He should have gone at the end of October when a new manager would have had the time to save the situation. We are stuck with him until the end of the season. Let's hope that he fulfils the faith that many of you have in him.

McGhee has more experience at this level of football than a lot of other managers and hasn't been relegated from it.

 

[Gerbil]

McGhee has more experience at this level of football than a lot of other managers and hasn't been relegated from it.

Yet

 

[Mr Burns]

Where did he say he had no confidence in Chaigneau please?
Do we know whether FDM was carrying a slight injury?
Do we know anything for sure?

It was the reason why Kuipers played against Luton. He went to say maybe he should go back to France as things are not working out here for him. If Kuipers was injuired he wouldn't have been on the bench. Beside McGhee said in hsi post match interview he played Flo to see what he can do.

 

[nobody's dupe]

McGhee has more experience at this level of football than a lot of other managers and hasn't been relegated from it.

By all means be positive, but please do not clutch at straws to try and make a desperate point.

 

[Yorkie]

By all means be positive, but please do not clutch at straws to try and make a desperate point.

Depends on your point of view. Most job applications say experience needed.
He has the experience.

 

[Ernest]

Silliest post of the day. By miles.

no this is this silliest post this year as I want to know how a SUPER loyal fan can post at 1712 and be at ST.Mary'S ?

Of course we all know the knobhead wasn't there

 

[Jim in the West]

Great debate - McGhee loses a few matches in the Championship, so Adams, Taylor et al must all be better managers. I'm not terribly impressed with how Micky is doing at the mo (but I'll give him a cheer next week, for old times sake). Taylor was too scared to manage us at this level, went to Hull, and has done OK - but now he's finding that even with resources far in excess of ours, it's bloody tough in this league.

McGhee has been fairly astute at making the least likely changes in games which "don't matter" (Turienzo at Luton, Chaigneau today). If it hadn't been for the Millwall game (which, to be honest, was much more the players' fault than MM's), then we'd have been more than happy with our Christmas/New Year haul - which should be rights have been 9 points from 5 games.

It's about time a few folk realised that to be where we are now is a BLOODY MIRACLE.....it may be painful at times, but I'd much rather be going to Southampton and losing 2-1 than getting a hard-earned point from MK Dons, or some crappy League One outfit.

 

[The Large One]

To "The Large One".

Your right Mcghee has performed miracles.
It was a miracle he hadn't noticed Millwall made 3 substitutions.
It was a miracle he didn't notice they changed their formation.
It was a miracle that he made no attempt to combat their formation change.
It was a miracle that the only sub he made was striker for striker.
It was a miracle that he picked that team against Luton.

May I suggest a bit of respect for other peoples opinions. Lets face facts, there is reasoned arguments on both sides!

The original point of that rant was - even if it wasn't clear from making it - was that McGhee isn't going to leave, and Dick Knight isn't going to sack him, so it would be far better to support him, even if some of his decisions are bizarre.

I have respect for people criticising McGhee, believe it or not, I do it myself - no, really - but insisting on his removal from the club? No. Any money the club would have to pay in compensation I would rather see go on strengthening the squad.

 

[SussexSpur]

How many loans do Brighton have left this season?

Apologies for bringing my usual biases to the table, from an unseeing outsider's point of view, but been struck by Mark Yeates' spate of goals over the festive period - in a similar, yet more prolific-at-reserve-level vein, Lee Barnard's a striker of ours who seems bound for glory (hopefully) yet with no realistic glimpse of our first team for the forseeable...

Then again, it seems McGhee has indulged heavily in loans already this season, some canny, some seemingly-slapdash...

Plenty of time, though, to recover - season's barely halfway done, and can't see a worthwhile alternative becoming available...

 

[fatboy]

So you agree that anyone daring to question McGhee is guilty of treachery and disloyalty? Sometimes your blind faith in whoever is manager is quite embarassing, and the same goes for this self appointed judge of all NSC albion fans, TLO. What a crap rant.

Well I can't speak for anyone else, but I feel I know my football. And I back the team 100% when we're in the stadium. But if we can't talk on NSC about the out of position players, the questionable signings, the shit or shall we say "baffling" tactics, the fact that Southampton are pony and we didn't take a point off them, or the fact that we just punted the ball out of defence all through the second half and invited the goal which eventually came, then please direct me to somewhere I can post my own views without towing the line and being labelled a traitor.

 

[London Irish]

To be fair, I suspect you don't think that, but it is that sort of attitude that gets on my nerves.

Yeah, thanks for being "fair" and calling me a racist.

I wonder what kind of immature, childish nonsense you would come out with if you let your renowned fairness slip a little.

 

[fatboy]

Where did he say he had no confidence in Chaigneau please?
Do we know whether FDM was carrying a slight injury?
Do we know anything for sure?

When he left him out of the Hull game.

If he was, he'd have put Martin or Sullivan on the bench.